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Led By Little Dick Durbin (D-IL)
Doesn't understand we are NOT a democracy, We are a Republic!

Republicans Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Trump have defended the Electoral College as empowering smaller states.

Senate Democrats proposed a constitutional amendment on Dec. 16 that would abolish the Electoral College and ensure the country’s presidential elections were determined by the popular vote.
“It is time to retire this 18th-century invention that disenfranchises millions of Americans,” Senate Judiciary Chairman Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said in a press release.
He and Sens. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii) and Peter Welch (D-Vt.) proposed the legislation after another proposal emerged in the House last week.
“No one’s vote should count for more based on where they live,“ Schatz said in the press release. ”The Electoral College is outdated and it’s undemocratic. It’s time to end it.”
Article II of the Constitution establishes the Electoral College, which directs states to appoint electors for casting votes for president and vice president.
The practice has come under considerable criticism from Democrats such as Durbin, who noted in his press release that he tried to abolish the Electoral College in 2000.

“In all but five presidential elections, the winner of the election received the most votes,” the press release read. “Two of those five times came in the last 25 years, handing the presidency to candidates the majority of voters rejected.”
The release was referring to former President George W. Bush and candidate Donald Trump losing the popular vote in 2000 and 2016 respectively. In the most recent presidential election, Trump won 49.9 percent of the popular vote compared with Vice President Kamala Harris’ 48.4 percent.
Trump has both supported and criticized the Electoral College in social media posts. He said in 2012 that it was a “disaster for democracy” and in 2019 said he “realize[s] the Electoral College is far better.”
He said that the “brilliance of the Electoral College is that you must go to many States to win,” adding that without it, smaller states would lose power.
Eliminating the Electoral College via constitutional amendment would require state and national approval.
According to Article V of the Constitution, Congress can send the issue to the states after two-thirds of both the House and Senate approve an amendment. From there, three-fourths of the state Legislatures or state ratifying conventions must also approve.
The House legislation is a joint resolution with proposed text for a constitutional amendment. It reads in part: “The pair of candidates having the greatest number of votes for President and Vice President shall be elected.”
The bill clarifies that the change would be enacted following verification by three-fourths of state Legislatures.
The bill and amendment seem poised to fail with a Republican-dominated Congress next year.
In October, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) panned a call by his state’s governor to abolish the Electoral College.
McConnell said the Electoral College encourages candidates to travel to smaller states. “At its core, the Electoral College protects Americans from the whims of the majority, something I’m familiar with in the Senate. ... Without it, no presidential candidate would ever travel to a small state in Middle America, like Kentucky,” he said.

Senate Democrats’ press release on Dec. 16 noted that 17 states and the District of Columbia “have joined a national plan to bypass the Electoral College by agreeing to allocate its electoral votes to whichever candidate wins the nationwide popular vote.”

That seemed to be a reference to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which has seen legislative approvals from multiple typically blue states since 2007.
In September, Pew Research Center said that more than six in 10 Americans support the popular vote determining who the next president is. Only 35 percent favored retaining the Electoral College.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...D9LCI4u%2BwFozo3maWf


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I think Dems love fed level control so much, that they'd do away with statehood if they could get it to pass.
 
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Glad to see that they’re wasting their time on that instead of serious mischief.

Re: “The Electoral College is outdated and it’s undemocratic.”

There’s almost nothing as undemocratic as the current Democrats.



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the “brilliance of the Electoral College is that you must go to many States to win,” adding that without it, smaller states would lose power.

That sums it up.
Otherwise, you just run up the score in places like California and Illinois (Chicago) where you can manufacture lots of votes.
They don't do it as much as they could in those places because the state is already going to go blue and the margin doesn't matter.



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Too bad for them, there is that pesky Constitution that they also would happily shred and urinate on if given the chance.


 
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Good luck getting the required States to go along with this. Yep, let them waste time.
 
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Good luck getting the required States to go along with this. Yep, let them waste time.


They said that about the Federal income tax too. Never underestimate the power of stupidity.
 
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It’s this kind of retarded blathering that lost them the senate, the house, and the presidency. Let them keep spouting nonsense.




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I can’t think of one thing the Democrats haven’t attempted to destroy. This is just another fool’s errand.
 
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These attempts to manipulate or abolish the Electoral College to influence or engineer a desired outcome for a favored candidate are the real threat to democracy.

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The practice has come under considerable criticism from Democrats such as Durbin, who noted in his press release that he tried to abolish the Electoral College in 2000.
And that election just happened to go against his favored candidate. I'm sure that's just a coincidence. Roll Eyes
 
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I think Dems love fed level control so much, that they'd do away with statehood if they could get it to pass.


100% no question

They would also love to get rid of the HOR and Supreme Court, just let their Politburo call the shots
 
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Do away with the 2nd amendment. Do away with the Police. Do away with the Electoral College. Do away with these little brat’s college debt. Fucking idiots.



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Durbin is a commie asshole.

That's about the BEST thing I can say about him.


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^^^^^^
That's why I always refer to him as "Durbin the Dick".


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A Constitutional Ammendment to eliminate the Electoral College? Without the provision for the Electoral College there would be no Constitution. The smaller states would never have ratified it in 1788.


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Get rid of the electoral college.

AKA let a handful of cities decide every election.

AKA hand the Democrats every election.
 
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A Constitutional Ammendment to eliminate the Electoral College? Without the provision for the Electoral College there would be no Constitution. The smaller states would never have ratified it in 1788.


Which is exactly the reason such an Amendment wouldn’t be ratified today. They obviously know that the stupid “compact” the blue states have signed on to would be slammed and stomped by SCOTUS. This is a political stunt. Go ahead, Dick. Piss into the wind all day long.
 
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The founders were more afraid of mob rule than they were the monarchy. Brilliant men worked tirelessly to give us a carefully balanced Republic that ensures the rights of the minority. Of course, Democrats would abandon that structure in a heartbeat. They see it as an antiquated system that was included to get the slave states on board.
 
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^^^^^^
That's why I always refer to him as "Durbin the Dick".


Up here we call him "Dick the Turban Durbin".
 
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I don't think they could make this happen. It's instructive how much democrats hate democracy and do not understand our system of government.



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