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http://ktul.com/news/local/one...er-guns-or-marijuana
Personally, Never used the stuff. I am tentatively for legalization, provided we can come up with some sort of test for telling if one is going up or coming down from a high. AKA Blood alcohol test/ Breathalizer. Given that, this underscores the need to change the federal law prior to any grand sweeping states rights change. | ||
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Hop head  |
an article like this comes up every time a state or municipality legalizes MJ, folks, at least in the media, don't get that is a State Law,, but to buy the firearm you have to fill out a Federal Form (4473).. you would think after the 30th state has legalized some form of MJ, the Feds would get a clue, but then again, as a controlled substance, it would still be treated like any other controlled substance on the list (from 11.e on the 4473) https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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Political Cynic |
people make choices all the time this is one of them personally I think drugs are for the weak-minded imbeciles of society but thats just me until the feds de-list it as a scheduled narcotic, then life's a real bitch [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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Frangas non Flectes |
Oh look, this issue again. Let’s play this finger-wagging game every time another state legalizes it at any level and pretend like it isn’t the dumbest part of the 4473. Let’s do this a few times a year for the next five or ten years. Seems like fun. ______________________________________________ “There are plenty of good reasons for fighting, but no good reason ever to hate without reservation, to imagine that God Almighty Himself hates with you, too.” | |||
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The Joy Maker |
It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government. 
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| Yew got a spider on yo head  |
+1 Staggering double standard and just another way to screw over good people. Maybe they should edit the 4473 to include casual alcohol use too. Monks are the only people that should be allowed to arm themselves. /Sarcasm | |||
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| Big Stack |
The kicker here is it functionally only effects medical MJ users, because they usually have to get some sort of state trackable credentials. In states that allow recreational MJ, while they may check IDs for age, AFAIK, they don't record IDs and send them to a central database. So those users can lie on their 4473, and no one will know. AFAIK users of legally prescribed opioid pain medications can legally buy guns. Now we can debate the legitimacy of the concept of medical MJ, but it seems inconsistent to allow one and not the other. | |||
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A Grateful American |
FFL: "Hey, you checked "No" in the "Pot" box." Dude: "So, like what's the hassle, man?!" FFL: "C'mon, orange fingerprints all over the form..." "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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| 4-H Shooting Sports Instructor  |
Ohio has come forward and told people that have a CCW that it can be suspended if they get a MJ Card. _______________________________ 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but > because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton NRA Endowment Life member NRA Pistol instructor...and Range Safety instructor Women On Target Instructor. | |||
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Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
Get a clue? Not with all that WOD money to fritter away, and the ability to make otherwise law abiding people into felons.
Sigline material, that's what that is. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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Caribou gorn |
Yes! I'm gonna vote for the funniest frog with the loudest croak on the highest log. | |||
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semi-reformed sailor |
They already use blood test to check levels of THC in suspected DWI/DUI operators. I vaguely remember that the DA's had a particular number of units per liter of blood that was their brightline for intoxication (like 0.08BAC for alcohol). I charged a few people for DWI wile high on MJ, but they were not the norm...I think I charged four or five in 18years.... "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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| Hop head |
Monks are known, at least in about 7 places, to brew some might fine Ale,,,, https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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Still finding my way |
Aye, sir! | |||
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Glorious SPAM! |
Why do people always equate alcohol use to the 4473 when this comes up? Alcohol is LEGAL, pot is ILLEGAL. You think people who consume alcohol shouldn't own guns? Make alcohol illegal. You want to smoke pot and own guns? Make pot legal. Saying "oh the 4473 should ask if you drink too" is stupid. It't not illegal! Why would they ask if you used a legal substance? Do you want them to make you list your legal medications too, prescribed and OTC? "I used sudafed yesterday. Can I buy a gun"? This is not difficult. | |||
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| Hop head |
probably from a poor definition of 'Controlled Substance' since the 4473 has no instructions for 11.e (and 11.g) the rest of the question have an instruction on the back of the form, and some states are ABC states,, Alcohol Beverage Control,, guessing some folks read the Control and think controlled substance, just a guess, and I have had buyers ask if by controlled do they mean how much I drink,,, https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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| The Joy Maker |
And then every time someone tries to bring up legalizing pot, it's the end of the world because Cheech is gonna murder babies for dope money, and the streets will run red with blood after the dopers, high looking for the bag of Cheetos they dropped on the floor, crash into the good Christians on their way to church. It will literally be the end of all civilization. Literally.
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Not sure how the 5th Amendment feels about all that. "Ninja kick the damn rabbit" | |||
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| Official forum SIG Pro enthusiast  |
Why should you have to choose? Guns and weed are both excellent, sure they don’t mix well but you shouldn’t have to choose one or the other. I thought this was the land of the free and the home of the whopper. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
This place is sometimes a laugh a minute  (And the Feds and every one of their 3-letter-acronym agencies can bite me.) "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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