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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
Honey Buzzard

Mars, thanks for posting that video...VERY interesting...although I'm not sure what I'm more impressed with; that Honey Buzzards are shrewd enough to take a hard-won portion of the kill for their chicks and set it aside as bait for a trap, sly enough to track the Yellow Hornet taking the bait back to the nest, or with its cavalier attitude in attacking a nest full of hornets that could easily kill it, if not for its natural defense.

Nature really is fascinating.

I wonder what you would get if you crossed a Honey Buzzard with a Honey Badger...and how that creature would stack up against the Giant Hornet?

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When I was in Southeast Asia working with some SF guys we learned the Meo (Hmong) tribesmen had a dirty trick for their enemies where they would take a nest of these damn things at night and plant it in their enemy's camp. There was hell to pay when the sun came up.

I find this story fascinating...insects used as a weapon against your enemies...it almost sounds like something out of a Hollywood movie.

I think I was most impressed with the audacity of these fierce warriors to climb a towering tree in the jungle, bag a hornet's nest, and then sneak it into an enemy's camp. You use what you got. I also heard stories of them planting cobras and scorpions in people's beds. The Meos I came in contact with were still carrying homemade muzzle loaders.

Cobras? Scorpions? Now I am even more fascinated.

Now I'm curious to know if there are other examples of creatures in nature, or perhaps even other natural phenemenon, that have been intentionally employed in combat. Terrain, for example has been employed as both a defensive and offensive strategy.

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China strikes the US again. There must be something we can send to China.

The View.

Based on their size a shotgun could do them in at ranges out to 20 yards or so, too far out and the pattern would be full of Holes that would cause misses. One thing I have to wonder about is how long it will be before some fool blasts a nest with a shotgun. Cause you know that some fool is going to try this. Bet he doesn't make it 50 feet before the first one stings him.

All I know is that by the time CNN gets done with this story......it's Trumps fault.

Jeebus, these things kill friggin mice. Am a bit disturbed some camera person staged this. Geez.

Terrifying moment a ‘murder hornet’ kills a mouse in under one minute.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...ouse-one-minute.html

If you have never heard of this guy, it is a great channel where he used to get stung by various insects (on purpose, to gauge which is worse).

This is the video where he gets stung by a Giant Asian Hornet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7VMcMJBjD4

P.S. It is not the worst sting.

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Originally posted by TAllen01:
If you have never heard of this guy, it is a great channel where he used to get stung by various insects (on purpose, to gauge which is worse).

This is the video where he gets stung by a Giant Asian Hornet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7VMcMJBjD4

P.S. It is not the worst sting.

The actual stinging part of the video starts ~11:20.

I was impressed how in spite of the searing pain, he didn't swear at all.

"How do you like my mantis kung fu, a$$hole?" [Warning, possibly disturbing content]...

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"How do you like my mantis kung fu, a$$hole?" [Warning, possibly disturbing content]...

That was fantastic!!!

Perhaps COVID-19 and murder hornets are what we get because we drew first blood?

Those things are terrifying. Maybe we have a solution staring us in the face. Birds eat insects. Aggressive hornets can be defeated by aggressive birds:

Police looking for ‘aggressive chicken’ terrorizing bank customers in Louisiana

The best part is all the Murder Hornet memes.

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Now I'm curious to know if there are other examples of creatures in nature, or perhaps even other natural phenemenon, that have been intentionally employed in combat.

As I recall, in WWII, the Russians trained dogs that there was food under running tanks, and then later, stopped feeding them, strapped mines to their backs and turned them loose in combat. Went straight for, then under, the German tanks looking for food.

Closer to home and in time, I'm surprised that bees aren't used to help close down violent riots: set up the LEOs beforehand with beekeeper gear, dump a couple beehives off the back of a pickup and the streets would be cleared pronto. Fewer casualties on both sides than sniping from rooftops or defending barricades, I'd expect.

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Now I'm curious to know if there are other examples of creatures in nature, or perhaps even other natural phenemenon, that have been intentionally employed in combat. Terrain, for example has been employed as both a defensive and offensive strategy.

There are a number of accounts from the early Spanish explorers, de Soto in particular, of Native Americans doing this. Balancing baskets of water moccasins over trails and pits with alligators in them are two I specifically remember. Having lived in Florida all of my life I would figure the heat, humidity, and mosquitoes would sufficiently discourage a bunch of armor-wearing Europeans, but they were pretty persistent.

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As I recall, in WWII, the Russians trained dogs that there was food under running tanks, and then later, stopped feeding them, strapped mines to their backs and turned them loose in combat. Went straight for, then under, the German tanks looking for food.

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There are a number of accounts from the early Spanish explorers, de Soto in particular, of Native Americans doing this. Balancing baskets of water moccasins over trails and pits with alligators in them are two I specifically remember. Having lived in Florida all of my life I would figure the heat, humidity, and mosquitoes would sufficiently discourage a bunch of armor-wearing Europeans, but they were pretty persistent.

Most interesting, I've got some more research to do...thanks for sharing!

Your replies kicked a memory loose in the back of my brain. I recalled hearing a WW II story in which the U.S. considered how to employ incendiary devices on the Japanese structures, many of which were constructed of wood and paper. An incendiary "Bat Bomb" was developed using Mexican Free Tailed bats with incendiary napalm devices glued to their bellies. Best I can tell this was an experimental weapon and never actually used in warfare.

Bat Bomb