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Christian Nationalism: The American Revolution Versus The French Revolution

By Wolf Howling

Christianity stands athwart neo-Marxists’ over-arching goal of creating an all-powerful government, free from any competing moral or ethical authority. Because America was founded on Biblical principles, neo-Marxists have to drive Christianity from the public square and uncouple America’s founding from its Judeo-Christian roots. The left’s latest effort has been to attack “Christian Nationalism.”

If you are a believing Christian or Jew, you are likely mystified about this newly made-up class of “Christian Nationalists.” According to Politico’s top reporter, Heidi Przybyla, it is a small subset of Christians—evil ones—who want to establish a theocracy. The defining characteristic of this subset of evil Christians is that they falsely believe that God Himself grants each person immutable rights to life, liberty, and property.

Przybyla was later aghast that anyone criticized her for this obscene and historically illiterate garbage. She tried to defend herself with an unhinged argument of pure nihilism. To paraphrase: no one truly knows what God wants; therefore, no one should rely on the Bible for moral lessons. In short, all Biblical commands become illegitimate when men interpret them. She stops there, of course, before applying that bit of crazed reasoning to anything else involving human communications or understanding.

Progressive media are now engaged in an effort to portray “Christian Nationalism” as the worst threat ever to our nation. Scurrilous articles have appeared in Politico, the NYT, Washington Post, the New Yorker, the Atlantic, TNR, and Salon. PBS has produced a documentary, as has Rob Reiner, with his being an epic box-office failure.

The concerted scaremongering against Christian Nationalism carefully avoids discussing the Bible and for good reason. The overarching messages of the Bible are morality, the sanctity of individual life, and the necessity of impartial justice. Indeed, one of the first commands God gave the Israelites before they entered the Promised Land was to create courts of law to administer “true Justice for the people.” He emphasized that the Israelite judges “must not distort justice; you shall not show partiality… Justice, and justice alone, shall you pursue…” (Deuteronomy 16:18-20).

Rabbi Hillel the Elder, the great Jewish scholar of the 1st century BC, when asked to explain the entirety of the Torah (the first five books of the Old Testament) as briefly as possible, said,

What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation of this—go and study it!

Jesus Christ reformulated Hillel, summing up the message of Christianity with the Golden Rule, “Do unto others what you would have them do unto you.” Matthew 7:12.

In his Letter to the Romans, St. Paul explained that a Christian should submit to earthly government (Romans 13:1-7). Jesus drove that point home when He said, “render unto Caeser what is Caeser’s, and unto God what is God’s.” (Matthew 22:21)

Scary stuff, eh? Do you detect a whiff of dangerous “nationalism?”

Christianity was the unchallenged foundation of Western Civilization until the Enlightenment. Many of the Enlightenment’s greatest figures, particularly in the Anglo-American tradition, remained people of faith, such as the father of the Scientific Method, Francis Bacon (1651-1626), who “promot[ed] scientific experimentation as a way of glorifying God and fulfilling scripture.” Other Enlightenment figures, particularly in France, were radicals such as Denis Diderot; they embraced atheism and socialism, which proved to have dire consequences for humanity.

In the Anglo-American branch of the Enlightenment, the most influential political philosopher was John Locke, an English doctor and a Christian who wrote his Second Treatise of Government in 1690. Locke explicitly grounded his political philosophy in the Bible, arguing that rights to life, liberty, and property, and a right to be subject to laws made only by a freely elected legislature, were not grants from government that government could withdraw on a whim, but were laws of nature a Christian God bequeathed to mankind. Government could not legitimately withdraw these laws, and citizens could rebel if governments tried to do so. Locke’s work became the American justification for revolution and a blue-print for the liberal democracy contained in the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

In 1750, Boston Congregationalist (i.e., Puritan) minister Jonathan Mayhew relied on Locke’s reasoning to deliver his own Biblical exegesis on government, God-given rights, and justified rebellion in a sermon he titled “Unlimited Submission.” It was the Morning Gun of the American Revolution.”

Mayhew wrote to justify Puritan actions during the bloody English Civil War a century earlier, which culminated with Puritans beheading the Anglican tyrant, King Charles I, for treason. Mayhew grounded English rights and representative government in scripture, particularly Romans 13:1-7, and reasoned from scripture that Christians had a duty to rebel against a tyrant violating their rights to life, liberty, or property. Mayhew had a profound effect on 15-year-old John Adams, who sat in the pews that day. Mayhew also had his sermon published and copies distributed throughout the colonies and Britain.

Christianity was at the forefront of the march to revolution that followed. Peter Oliver, the loyalist Chief Justice of colonial Massachusetts, wrote in 1780 that Mayhew and his fellow Congregationalist clergy—the “Black Regiment”—caused the American rebellion. In 1775, Britain’s Horace Walpole drew a similar conclusion when he quipped that “Cousin America has run off with a Presbyterian minister.”

Famously, in the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson invoked immutable, God-given rights to justify rebelling against a tyrant who violated those rights. Jefferson’s reasoning, and indeed, much of his verbiage, was lifted from John Locke. In the months before Jefferson penned the Declaration, Thomas Paine wrote Common Sense, a pamphlet that caused a sea change in the colonial embrace of revolution. He opened the pamphlet with religious arguments against the monarchy.

Ben Franklin, a man who was pivotal in the Christian evangelical movement’s rise in America, proposed in 1776 that the Great Seal of the United States should show Israelites escaping from Egypt as recounted in Exodus, with the motto “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.” Jefferson liked that motto so much that he adopted it for his personal seal.

It’s irrefutable that the people who drafted and approved the Declaration of Independence (1776), the Constitution (1787), and the Bill of Rights (1791) believed that the rights to life, liberty, property, and representative government flowed from God and government could not infringe them.* For a good discussion of religion’s role in our government, see this 2006 speech from former federal judge and Senator James Buckley.

The canard of “Christian nationalism” comes from the atheist path that brought the Enlightenment to a bloody end with the French Revolution. Virtually all modern society’s ills can be traced back to that Revolution, which birthed socialism and a modern police state with absolute power. Naturally, the first thing the French radicals had to do to remake society was rid the nation of a competing system of morality and authority—i.e., Christianity—and this they did with brutality and bloodshed. George Neumayr explained,

The secularists of the French Revolution regarded the Roman Catholic Church as the last obstacle to atheism’s final triumph. Blurting this out, the French dilettante Denis Diderot proposed to his fellow revolutionaries that they strangle the last priest with the “guts of the last king.”

The French Revolution’s legacy has been a disaster for humanity. Over 100 million people died in the 20th century because of communist, socialist, and fascist police states unmoored from Judaism and Christianity. Moreover, the children of the French Revolution, people such as Michel Foucault, a gay pedophile, and Herbert Marcuse, have overtaken the West’s ivory towers and poisoned the West with postmodernism, critical theory, DEI, and atheism.

And now, the French Revolution’s legacy gives us the utter canard of Christian Nationalism. It is a charge that relies on historic illiteracy to redefine our nation. It must be fought tooth and nail, for the stakes could not be higher.


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I am a Christian, but I really don't know what Christian Nationalism is.

I remember the media, suddenly and in concert, began to use the term "nationalism" in place of patriotism as soon as President Trump was elected. I assumed they felt that they could make that sound sinister as opposed to someone being patriotic, with "nationalism" sounding more like the portmanteau NAZI and its full title of National Socialist Party(ignoring the "socialist" part of course.

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Pick a target, freeze it, personalize it and polarize it.



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Christian Nationalism is another made up BS thing the Left can use to demonize their enemies. Just like the term "assault weapon". Roll Eyes

And they COMPLETELY ignore the way Black churches have become hyper-political with preachers and clergy openly discussing politics from the pulpit and instructing their congregations on how to vote (Democrat) of course.


 
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They've decided it's a more user-friendly term than deplorables. But it's just another thing to call those who won't go along with the plan. It's no more real than the tooth fairy.
 
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Pick a target, freeze it, personalize it and polarize it.


And dehumanize the people targeted. Like Hitler did to the Jews in Germany. I think it took him a few years to make it palatable to pull them out of their homes in front of non-Jews.

I guess we won't have to wear yellow arm bands quite yet.

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I am a Christian, but I really don't know what Christian Nationalism is.

The academics will attempt to define it but, we all know the press, entertainment and pop-culture will use it describe ANYONE who is of a Christian fundamentalist-bent who is vigorously nationalistic or, patriotic.
The reality is, they'll throw the label at anybody who goes to church, waves the American flag, believes in the nuclear family... basically lives their life as a 'normie'. Any way they can warp the language and create more pejorative words and labels against those they hate.
 
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It won't be long before they demonize Christians for the "good of the world". Some people don't want to think about/acknowledge the Creator/God and will do whatever they can to hide their deeds in darkness.
 
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It won't be long before they demonize Christians for the "good of the world". Some people don't want to think about/acknowledge the Creator/God and will do whatever they can to hide their deeds in darkness.

It is anathema to Marxism. Christianity and Judaism must be destroyed for Marxism to flourish. Interesting that they seem to embrace islam though, eh?


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And dehumanize the people targeted. Like Hitler did to the Jews in Germany. I think it took him a few years to make it palatable to pull them out of their homes in front of non-Jews.

I guess we won't have to wear yellow arm bands quite yet.

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notice how Biden tries this with “extreme MAGA people”? It’s rules for radicals #13 which is part of the progression toward atrocity.



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Anyone pushing this is the typical commie Cant Understand Normal Thinking operative.
 
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The US was never envisioned as having anything other than a Christian populace - probably, only a Protestant Christian populace.

(Some of that can be issues with the Catholic bureaucracy, much of it was the position of the 18th century Catholic church on aristocracy.)

It's astounding how far/how fast the youth have been degraded, when they were abandoned to be raised by Social Media.

Many of them have a deep desperation for some structure for their lives. Hopefully, they can find Christ, but many of the Protestant "churches" have become so far divorced from scripture/the basic elements of Protestant Ideology, that the kids see them for the dead organizations they are.
 
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Check the etymology of the phrase. I believe you'll find that this term has come into vogue recently, and if so, that's all you really need to know about it. Just more leftist bullshit.
 
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At the onset the tactic was to make a big deal about neonazis and skinheads. When even the most marginally educated people knew that that was a tiny and ridiculously dismissible fraction of the fringe population that was always out there they had to broaden the definition.
 
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Communism did NOT die with the fall of the Berlin wall, instead it rebranded itself as progressivism and socialism. No matter what Heidi Przybyla calls herself, she's a dirty assed commie and making Christians out to be the bad guy is an early precursor to outright persecution.

The "State" establishes communism's religion as atheism and organized religion is always persecuted. A few examples:
  • After the October Revolution, Lenin and his successors persecuted Christians in both Russia and the Eastern block.
  • After the Cultural Revolution, Mao's persecution of Christians included closing churches (or destroying), criminalized possession of the Bible, sent clergy to re-education camps, etc.
  • After the Khmer rouge seized power in Cambodia, Christianity was banned and Christians were targeted for persecution and genocide.



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    It won't be long before they demonize Christians for the "good of the world". Some people don't want to think about/acknowledge the Creator/God and will do whatever they can to hide their deeds in darkness.

    It is anathema to Marxism. Christianity and Judaism must be destroyed for Marxism to flourish. Interesting that they seem to embrace islam though, eh?


    They are needed right now not to act out of line. But when the time comes the Marxists won’t need them either.


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    What Is A Christian Nationalist Anyway?

    It’s an election year in America, which means that the political Left is trotting out its favorite fearmongering apparatuses again. For the past few years, politicians and pundits alike have leaned heavily on terms like “far right,” “bigoted,” racist,” “transphobic,” and “extremist”; but topping the list of late has been “Christian nationalist.” But what is a Christian nationalist?

    Just last week, Politico propagandist and self-described reporter Heidi Przybyla appeared on MSNBC to offer her definition of a Christian nationalist: “They believe that our rights as Americans and as all human beings do not come from any earthly authority. They don’t come from Congress, from the Supreme Court, they come from God.” Her comments followed a Politico article she authored in which she wrote, “Christian nationalists in America believe that the country was founded as a Christian nation and that Christian values should be prioritized throughout government and public life.”

    Of Przybyla’s two assessments, the latter is nearer the truth than the former. If the defining characteristic of a Christian nationalist were a belief that “our rights as Americans and as all human beings do not come from any earthly authority” but “from God,” then the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution would be tantamount to Christian nationalist manifestos.

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness,” Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1776. Of course, even though Przybyla and her comrades don’t outright declare such men as Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, and the legendary George Washington “Christian nationalists,” their political counterparts work tirelessly to suppress the admiration of such men and the principles they championed, right down to removing monuments to the founders of America across the country.

    Why? Przybyla answers that, and rather candidly: because “the country has become less religious and more diverse…” Indeed, the nation has become more diverse than it was at its inception—it is difficult to imagine the Founding Fathers discussing Sharia law and satanic idols when drafting the First Amendment. But it has not become less religious. In fact, the growing Muslim rebellion against such projects as gender ideology and sex education, and the popularity and platform of the pagan former Republican presidential primary candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, are evidence that non-Christians also embrace (at least for the most part) the American vision articulated by the Founders almost two-and-a-half centuries ago.

    No, the country is not less religious than it once was, only less Christian. Certainly, a majority (about 63 percent, according to the Pew Research Center) of Americans identify as Christian, but that share has been declining for decades (already down from nearly 90 percent in the early 1990s). Even among those who identify as Christian today, Christian principles and morality are not always advocated and are sometimes even undermined—either in the name of some modernist, Marxist, all-mercy-no-justice revisioning of Christ or for the sake of some misconstrued, misunderstood notion of a “separation of church and state.” A clear example of this would be the incumbent president, Joe Biden, who identifies as a Catholic and even erroneously touts his faith, all while vociferously endorsing, promoting, and funding such evils as abortion, homosexuality, transgenderism, and socialism.

    While Christianity has suffered a drastic decrease in recent years, a new religion has risen to take its place: Leftism. Yes, Leftism is a religion. Much like Catholicism, it even boasts a clergy, sacraments, and dogmas. Its clergy are elite power brokers: media personalities are its preachers while politicians serve as priests, legislating sacrifice to their gods. Its sacraments are multitudinous: from transgendering children and stocking school libraries with pornographic picture books all the way to its highest (or, rather, lowest) form of unholy prayer, abortion.

    Peter Kreeft once wrote, “Abortion is the Antichrist’s demonic parody of the eucharist. That’s why it uses the same holy words, ‘This is my body,’ with the blasphemous opposite meaning.” Leftism also has its own dogmas and doctrines, rigorously enforced by its own office of the inquisition. Those who dare question transgenderism, diversity and equity, drag queen story hours, or the sudden appearance of ten million illegal immigrants are swiftly dealt with and forced to recant their heresies or be excommunicated and labeled “extremists” and “bigots.” Which brings us back to those intolerant, extremist, Christian nationalists.

    Every lie, they say, contains at least a seed of truth, but Przybyla (perhaps unwittingly) offered a whole seedcake’s worth: “Christian nationalists in America believe that the country was founded as a Christian nation and that Christian values should be prioritized throughout government and public life.” This assessment is very close to being spot-on.

    Despite all the hyperinflated fearmongering, those derided by the White House and its media mouthpieces as “Christian nationalists” are not trying to force all Americans to attend Mass weekly; we are not endeavoring to install altar rails in the Capitol building; nor are we attempting to replace the Star-Spangled Banner’s stars with rosary beads.

    So, what are we doing? John Adams, a Framer of the Constitution and George Washington’s successor as president, wrote in 1798, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” Christian nationalists are simply trying to be a moral and religious people and ensure the success of the American experiment in so doing.

    Certainly, we want to legislate Christian morality—to end the slaughter of unborn children, to ban the scourge of pornography, to keep little boys and little girls from having their sex organs hacked off or hacked open. These are measures which the Founding Fathers might have called “the basics” had they ever lived to see the horrors of the modern age. In his prescient book The Abolition of Man, C.S. Lewis called the set of principles compelling such commonsense measures “the Tao,” which is simply objective truth, Natural Law, the pursuit of inerrant virtue. One could easily argue that Christian nationalists are simply upholding the Tao, whether at the dinner table or in the voting booth.

    Lewis prophesies what will come about if the Tao (the tenets of today’s Christian nationalism) are forgotten: the emergence of an elite class of “Conditioners.” He predicts, “The ultimate springs of human action are no longer, for them, something given. They have surrendered—like electricity: it is the function of the Conditioners to control, not obey them. …They are the motivators, the creators of motive.” He then asks, “But how are they going to be motivated themselves?”

    This is the end result of Leftism, the god that it worships: complete, unbridled abandon to self. This is also why “Christian nationalism” poses such a threat—indeed, an existential threat—to Leftism: because Christianity is dedicated to complete, unbridled abandon of self to Christ. Where Leftism declares that every man can be a god, Christianity teaches that every man ought to be a slave to Christ. The catch, of course, is that by being slaves to Christ, we also become sons of God (Galatians 4:7).

    Leftism cannot abide the threat of Christian morality, nor even of the profession that all men “are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,” because this would admit the existence of a Creator, a God, who not only demands but deserves worship. The fever dream of every man being god would be broken. In the end, that is what it means to be a Christian nationalist: to boldly declare that God is Law and that the laws penned by man must be in accord with Law Himself. Leftism declares the perverse inverse: that man is god, and thus any law penned by man is, by its nature, in accord with the law of the gods. With liberalism and relativism as the chief ideologies of the day, the only remaining threat to the Leftist’s state of self-worship is Christian nationalism.


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