Most of us carry a gun or two. Many or most of us carry an IFAK, maybe a vehicle kit. With all I hear about fentanyl lately I wonder if it makes any sense to carry narcan in a kit. I don't plan on needing it but don't really plan on needing a gun either but it seems to be more of a possibility than it used to be. Not so much for use on a drug user as to be used in case of incidental exposure.

I don’t think fear of accidental exposure is realistic.

You might need a gun though. There is preparation and then there is paranoia.

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I have no interest in training to use narcan, become certified in its use. Because guaranteed as soon as people start carrying whilly nilly the government will want to license it, if it isn't already.

^^^^ Reports of incidental exposure are vastly overblown. Medical experts say it is highly unlikely, and you'll notice that you never see lab reports from those who were "exposed" and "needed" to be given narcan.

From what I understand about those affected by touching the drug,(most likely those who use), you won't have a chance to respond to giving yourself Narcan anyway. We have had a few instances when people were exposed they went down hard and fast. People may react to things differently based on how much was absorbed, size,weight,etc., so there is no telling how it may react with you. Maybe someone on scene might be able to administer it to you if they know you have it but good luck with that.

Trained via webinar.

Carry in duty bag while on duty.

Check your county health department…maybe they offer training.

No, but I carry Jarcan. It's a jar in a can, in case you have a can, but need a jar instead.

If you are not a first responder, the chance is slim or none.

A person walking around with that much exposed fentanyl most likely has stopped breathing before
he exposes you.

Doing a drug bust or busting a dealer is a much different situation.

Having to put hands on a collapsed drug user is also a high risk situation.

One of the most overhyped things in my lifetime.

Ranks up there with tha Rona.

Don’t do drugs.

If you’ve got family or something that uses opioids, sure. Otherwise, don’t waste your time.

Carried Narcan on duty, but not off. The odds of needing a hemorrhage kit/tourniquet are far greater.

Good enough for me, thank you. Jarcan sounds like a good idea though.

I carry a PeeCan. As I age, I cannot hold it as long...

We are given boxes and boxes of intranasal narcan to hand out to the public because heroin is so popular in DC. We hand it out like candy to the citizens because if they they give it to their drug buddy who is overdosing we don't need to go do it for them. 5 minutes after they get it they wake up and walk away anyways. No cert or class on how to give it, you just spray it in their nose like Afrin. I'm sure a local jurisdiction near you is offering them to the public for free. If you really want some grab 3-4 doses as 1-2 usually aren't enough, especially for fentanyl. You can't OD on narcan. Worst case the person vomits if they get too much. Grab a few and that'll relieve your concerns.

I recently ran across how many are now carrying a tourniquet in their personal bandaid kit and that seemed a bit much. Many compete in shooting sports on a range - where it could be considered the most controlled environment to have an ND at all.

Combat of course it is much more likely and yet that has only come about in the last ten years or so, before that most of us got the "wound badge" on the harness and in 22 years of training I actually opened one maybe twice in a 1st aid refresher. Now troops are practicing self administered tourniquets and even carry a sharpy to note the time on them.

Most "normal" first aid kits don't even contain them.

Compared to narcan I'd say a tourniquet may be more important in the greater scope of things, very few users mess with a large amounts of uncut substances as that is done at the distribution level while packaging. Once it gets to the street baggie level the risk is much reduced, especially to the casual bystander. At that point the provider at that recreational event is the most at risk.

I did put a tourniquet into my personal IFAK and now take it while hunting - it's been over 45 years I didnt bother and for most in American certainly common to have any first aid back at the truck. Narcan won't be part of the kit in the future until it's handed out like candy at sporting goods store, which is unlikely. What would be more effective is to stop the tons of it being smuggled into the country from China - but we would need to close the border to make a substantial impact. Narcan is just a bandaid on the much larger problem.

Yes.

Haven’t touched drugs in two decades, gimme an accidental hit PLEASE!

I do while on duty.. off duty nope..

I keep pain meds locked in my safe out of an abundance of safety but one never knows when they will be forgetful and leave it lying around. I have older parents and very young nephews and nieces running around daily. I feel like the narcan is just another layer to cover myself from tragedy.

I don't carry it around with me and never thought to. I guess if you were always in an area that was suspect or associated with people who might be into using you might want to.

I used to when I was a cop. I don’t deal with that anymore and if I happen to trip across someone who’s looking like he needs some Narcan, I’ll call 911.

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^^^^ Reports of incidental exposure are vastly overblown. Medical experts say it is highly unlikely, and you'll notice that you never see lab reports from those who were "exposed" and "needed" to be given narcan.

Right, you aren't going to need it for accidental exposure.

So, I wouldn't ever carry it. I am highly unlikely to run into anyone needed a jolt, and don't feel it is necessary to be prepared to treat the extremely unlikely random person I might encounter.