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posted November 12, 2017 01:23 PMHide Post
quote:
Originally posted by saigonsmuggler:
Face ID hacked:

Slashgear


Here is a comment from the link you provided...seems like a lot of time and trouble just to hack some random persons iPhone...



"First the "hacker" needs to ask the "victim" if they can do a 3D scan of their face, so that they can later do a 3D printed mask.

- Then the "hacker" needs to ask the "victim" to hold still while they take front-facing photos of their eyes and mouth, to print and glue onto the 3D printed mask.

- Then the "hacker" needs to ask the "victim" to allow them to take a mold of their nose, so that they can create a silicone duplicate of their nose for the mask.

- Then, once the mask and all parts are made and assembled, the "victim" needs to give the "hacker" access to their iPhone X while they look the other way.

All the "victim" needs to do is to NOT allow all of these things to happen by the so-called "hacker", and then Face ID WON'T be fooled by this complexly created mask."


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posted November 12, 2017 01:26 PMHide Post
Although interesting I don't see that hack being very meaningful (unless you are on Tom Cruise's MI team and have one of those things that makes latex masks....)
 
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posted November 12, 2017 06:27 PMHide Post
Thanks for the reviews gents. I'll get the 2nd version next year after it's vetted. ATT is going to have to offer a deal on it because I can't pay a g for a phone. 7 working hreat still. Living through y'all...



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posted November 13, 2017 08:16 PMHide Post
Iphone X arrived today. Tomorrow setup and data transfer start. I'll chime back in later. Nice looking smartphone though! Smile


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posted November 13, 2017 08:26 PMHide Post
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Originally posted by just1tym:
Iphone X arrived today. Tomorrow setup and data transfer start. I'll chime back in later. Nice looking smartphone though! Smile


I am expecting crystal clear pics of the fuzz!



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posted November 13, 2017 08:37 PMHide Post
quote:
Originally posted by just1tym:
quote:
Originally posted by saigonsmuggler:
Face ID hacked:

Slashgear


Here is a comment from the link you provided...seems like a lot of time and trouble just to hack some random persons iPhone...



"First the "hacker" needs to ask the "victim" if they can do a 3D scan of their face, so that they can later do a 3D printed mask.

- Then the "hacker" needs to ask the "victim" to hold still while they take front-facing photos of their eyes and mouth, to print and glue onto the 3D printed mask.

- Then the "hacker" needs to ask the "victim" to allow them to take a mold of their nose, so that they can create a silicone duplicate of their nose for the mask.

- Then, once the mask and all parts are made and assembled, the "victim" needs to give the "hacker" access to their iPhone X while they look the other way.

All the "victim" needs to do is to NOT allow all of these things to happen by the so-called "hacker", and then Face ID WON'T be fooled by this complexly created mask."


Technically speaking, if the phone uses depth mapping technology to unlock, then all it would take would be to use similar depth mapping technology make the duplicate.

There's no reason why someone can't scan your face with a depth sensing camera, such as one that exists on the iPhone, and then print off a 3d model from that.

You have to get much closer to scan someone's fingerprint to make a model of that.

I guess the benefit of face ID is that you can't unlock it with your eyes closed. Won't have your buddies fucking with you by scanning your face while you are asleep and texting embarrassing things to your boss. At least I presume that's how it works.
 
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posted November 13, 2017 08:40 PMHide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Aeteocles:
quote:
Originally posted by just1tym:
quote:
Originally posted by saigonsmuggler:
Face ID hacked:

Slashgear


Here is a comment from the link you provided...seems like a lot of time and trouble just to hack some random persons iPhone...



"First the "hacker" needs to ask the "victim" if they can do a 3D scan of their face, so that they can later do a 3D printed mask.

- Then the "hacker" needs to ask the "victim" to hold still while they take front-facing photos of their eyes and mouth, to print and glue onto the 3D printed mask.

- Then the "hacker" needs to ask the "victim" to allow them to take a mold of their nose, so that they can create a silicone duplicate of their nose for the mask.

- Then, once the mask and all parts are made and assembled, the "victim" needs to give the "hacker" access to their iPhone X while they look the other way.

All the "victim" needs to do is to NOT allow all of these things to happen by the so-called "hacker", and then Face ID WON'T be fooled by this complexly created mask."


Technically speaking, if the phone uses depth mapping technology to unlock, then all it would take would be to use similar depth mapping technology make the duplicate.

There's no reason why someone can't scan your face with a depth sensing camera, such as one that exists on the iPhone, and then print off a 3d model from that.

You have to get much closer to scan someone's fingerprint to make a model of that.

I guess the benefit of face ID is that you can't unlock it with your eyes closed. Won't have your buddies fucking with you by scanning your face while you are asleep and texting embarrassing things to your boss. At least I presume that's how it works.


Works with sunglasses on. How does the iPhone know if your eyes are open or closed through glasses?



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posted November 14, 2017 06:04 AMHide Post
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Originally posted by Skins2881:
quote:
Originally posted by Aeteocles:
quote:
Originally posted by just1tym:
quote:
Originally posted by saigonsmuggler:
Face ID hacked:

Slashgear


Here is a comment from the link you provided...seems like a lot of time and trouble just to hack some random persons iPhone...



"First the "hacker" needs to ask the "victim" if they can do a 3D scan of their face, so that they can later do a 3D printed mask.

- Then the "hacker" needs to ask the "victim" to hold still while they take front-facing photos of their eyes and mouth, to print and glue onto the 3D printed mask.

- Then the "hacker" needs to ask the "victim" to allow them to take a mold of their nose, so that they can create a silicone duplicate of their nose for the mask.

- Then, once the mask and all parts are made and assembled, the "victim" needs to give the "hacker" access to their iPhone X while they look the other way.

All the "victim" needs to do is to NOT allow all of these things to happen by the so-called "hacker", and then Face ID WON'T be fooled by this complexly created mask."


Technically speaking, if the phone uses depth mapping technology to unlock, then all it would take would be to use similar depth mapping technology make the duplicate.

There's no reason why someone can't scan your face with a depth sensing camera, such as one that exists on the iPhone, and then print off a 3d model from that.

You have to get much closer to scan someone's fingerprint to make a model of that.

I guess the benefit of face ID is that you can't unlock it with your eyes closed. Won't have your buddies fucking with you by scanning your face while you are asleep and texting embarrassing things to your boss. At least I presume that's how it works.


Works with sunglasses on. How does the iPhone know if your eyes are open or closed through glasses?


It doesn’t work with all sunglasses. If they block the IR light that the true depth camera uses to map your face then it won’t unlock your phone. This is only true if you enable attention awareness (an added layer of security if you want) where it looks for you actually looking at the phone before it will unlock. If you disable that then it will unlock more easily when it scans your face.
 
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In what appears to be a major breakthrough for law enforcement, and a possible privacy problem for Apple customers, a major U.S. government contractor claims to have found a way to unlock pretty much every iPhone on the market.

Cellebrite, a Petah Tikva, Israel-based vendor that's become the U.S. government's company of choice when it comes to unlocking mobile devices, is this month telling customers its engineers currently have the ability to get around the security of devices running iOS 11 (right up to 11.2.6). That includes the iPhone X, a model that Forbes has learned was successfully raided for data by the Department for Homeland Security back in November 2017, most likely with Cellebrite technology.
...




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posted February 28, 2018 05:01 PMHide Post
“UPDATE Cellebrite provided some additional specifics to Forbes on Wednesday, claiming it can unlock all iOS versions up to 11.2.6, the most recent iteration of Apple’s operating system.”

That’s up to 11.2.6, not through 11.2.6. But maybe a careless inaccuracy.

www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbre...hone-cellebrite/amp/

BTW – I’ve had my iPhone X for a month now, and love it. Besides the convenience of facial recognition for unlock and ApplePay, the OLED screen is so restful on the eyes.



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