Is DL sufficient, including states that need Real ID?

In some states, FFL is required for private transfers w/ DOJ background checks. So this filters illegals with DL (non-Real ID).

Are there states that issue DL to illegals (and have Real ID for proven citizens) that allow for private transfers just based on DL?

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Originally posted by southernmaninla:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by southernmaninla:
Under Fed law it is illegal to private transfer a firearm including handguns, rifles and shotguns to a person that resides in another state this includes family.

Edited to add most states also have laws against it.

It's stupid but it's the law.

ATF FAQ link https://www.google.com/url?q=h...imMOLBP_2_KlitaKF0V1

Yep, that's the law, however, I will always treat the bolded section above as open to my personal discretion.

I've sold a number of guns FTF to non-family members, and for that transaction to happen, the buyer must....

1 - Provide me with a Florida DL
2 - Provide me with a Florida CCL
3 - Sign a Bill of Sale detailing the aforementioned info.

That bill of sale is filed in my safe should I ever need to substantiate where that gun went.

You made an excellent decision opting to walk away from that deal given all the red flags.

Personal discretion? Under the law it is a felony to give your child any firearm (except antiques) if they reside in another state. I don't agree with it, bu that is the law.

You are of course absolutely correct, I simply don't care. 'I' will decide how 'I' will deal with family. For a huge majority of my 56 years on this rock I actually adhered to the law without exception, regardless how ridiculous it might have been. Those days are over. The government seems to know no bounds when it comes to inserting itself into my life, so in this particular situation, I'll decide how this will work.

I'm not advocating anyone else do this, but for me and mine, I don't need the government's input on this situation.

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Originally posted by konata88:
Is DL sufficient, including states that need Real ID?

In some states, FFL is required for private transfers w/ DOJ background checks. So this filters illegals with DL (non-Real ID).

Are there states that issue DL to illegals (and have Real ID for proven citizens) that allow for private transfers just based on DL?

I'm not even required to ask about residency or check ID in AZ. It's advisable, but not required. AZ's DLs don't comply with the Real ID Act, but that doesn't stop me from buying guns from FFLs anytime I want. There is no real legal onus on private sellers here. I don't think anyone wants their guns going to bad guys, and I'd like to think most people would walk away if they had a bad feeling about a buyer. But I've never heard about anyone getting into trouble here for a private party sale to a non-resident. ATF tries to sting ignorant out-of-staters at local gun shows, though.