Well I was updating my payment info because I had like six cards stored in payment four of which were expired or canceled from fraud. So I cleared it to my bank account and Amazon Prime CC. Cleared out all the addresses from sending people stuff. I scroll down the screen to look if there is anything else I should update/remove.

I found this. No chance that this will ever get abused, yep zero chance.

Glad they are catering to the unfortunate. I am sure they have a jiffy system set up to root out fraud. Probably the same system that quickly identifies counterfeit goods and kids toys from China.

In CT ebt prime accounts only cost $5.99 a month.


I don't see a problem with accepting ebt. I purchase food items that save me money on amazon, why shouldn't low income people have that opportunity?

Get the money!

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Originally posted by Nickelsig229:
In CT ebt prime accounts only cost $5.99 a month.


I don't see a problem with accepting ebt. I purchase food items that save me money on amazon, why shouldn't low income people have that opportunity?

Because they are living off the taxpayers and should only get basic food items for a short time until they can get off welfare. We start to accept and sympathize with abuse of our tax money. Sure, they could be buying 50 pound bags of rice and beans but I doubt it. Welfare should be limited to very few food items for survival. All else should be off limits.

To hell with basic food items. Let's give them the leftover MREs. That will motivate some people to get a fucking job and stop sucking the taxpayer tit.

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Originally posted by mrvmax:

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Originally posted by Nickelsig229:
In CT ebt prime accounts only cost $5.99 a month.


I don't see a problem with accepting ebt. I purchase food items that save me money on amazon, why shouldn't low income people have that opportunity?

Because they are living off the taxpayers and should only get basic food items for a short time until they can get off welfare. We start to accept and sympathize with abuse of our tax money. Sure, they could be buying 50 pound bags of rice and beans but I doubt it. Welfare should be limited to very few food items for survival. All else should be off limits.

Your assuming that all recipients are abusers of the system, lazy, or capable of getting gainful employment. It's a broad stroke of a paint brush you wield. I'm guilty of the same mentality, accept that I know people who are incapable and require some help just to have simple things like milk and eggs and god forbid a dollar in their pocket.

We all hear about the abuse, but when the feel good story comes on the news about how someone got a free months worth of groceries who really can't get by without it, people tend disregard it. Or I commonly say to people, "there are plenty of people who donate to charities, it shouldn't be the governments responsibility" and after seeing first hand what non system abusers have to deal with, with legitimate need, I have softened my stance.

I would definitely do some sort of reform for the welfare lifestyle, those who plan on it as a means of gaming the system, but there are many who are truly disabled or unable to "get a job" as so many would say and walk away.

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Originally posted by Nickelsig229:

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Originally posted by mrvmax:

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Originally posted by Nickelsig229:
In CT ebt prime accounts only cost $5.99 a month.


I don't see a problem with accepting ebt. I purchase food items that save me money on amazon, why shouldn't low income people have that opportunity?

Because they are living off the taxpayers and should only get basic food items for a short time until they can get off welfare. We start to accept and sympathize with abuse of our tax money. Sure, they could be buying 50 pound bags of rice and beans but I doubt it. Welfare should be limited to very few food items for survival. All else should be off limits.

Your assuming that all recipients are abusers of the system, lazy, or capable of getting gainful employment. It's a broad stroke of a paint brush you wield. I'm guilty of the same mentality, accept that I know people who are incapable and require some help just to have simple things like milk and eggs and god forbid a dollar in their pocket.

We all hear about the abuse, but when the feel good story comes on the news about how someone got a free months worth of groceries who really can't get by without it, people tend disregard it. Or I commonly say to people, "there are plenty of people who donate to charities, it shouldn't be the governments responsibility" and after seeing first hand what non system abusers have to deal with, with legitimate need, I have softened my stance.

I would definitely do some sort of reform for the welfare lifestyle, those who plan on it as a means of gaming the system, but there are many who are truly disabled or unable to "get a job" as so many would say and walk away.

So they should be able to buy lobster, steak, soda, cookies? I don’t care why they are on it, give them food to survive and no more. Food is available at churches, food pantries, meals on wheels - there are ways to get food to survive for people that want to. Prior to welfare people depended on voluntary charity (like churches), themselves or they had nothing. Now we are forced to support people with our tax money - Beggars can’t be choosers except in America. I’ve been without food and know people on SNAP and I realize there are a small minority not abusing it that have no other means of working. It doesn’t change the fact that I’m being forced to provide for people to get obese off it or sell their benefits.

I work in the hood with the EBT demographic. Rest assured, most of them greatly abuse the system. I have seen totally able-bodied people refuse to work because they can get by on welfare and food stamps. Back before EBT, I worked in a convenience store in college, and food stamps were in dollar bill denominations. Every single shift, people would buy a piece of Bazooka gum with a $1 food stamp. Since there was no denomination less than $1, I had to give them coins for change. They'd do it a few times and then have enough for a pack of smokes or a bottle of Old Crow. I now mostly work 9-5 when I'm in the field and you can't imagine the number of 20-something, able-bodied people I wake up from sleeping when I ring the doorbell in the middle of the day. Very few of them work at all. Once in a while I come across someone who's on SSI disability, but still allowed to work part time and they do, and they're really trying to better themselves. That's about one out of 15 meetings per week, at best. Around here every fast food place takes EBT.

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Originally posted by Jim Shugart:

HA!

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Originally posted by Nickelsig229:

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Originally posted by mrvmax:

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Originally posted by Nickelsig229:
In CT ebt prime accounts only cost $5.99 a month.


I don't see a problem with accepting ebt. I purchase food items that save me money on amazon, why shouldn't low income people have that opportunity?

Because they are living off the taxpayers and should only get basic food items for a short time until they can get off welfare. We start to accept and sympathize with abuse of our tax money. Sure, they could be buying 50 pound bags of rice and beans but I doubt it. Welfare should be limited to very few food items for survival. All else should be off limits.

Your assuming that all recipients are abusers of the system, lazy, or capable of getting gainful employment. It's a broad stroke of a paint brush you wield. I'm guilty of the same mentality, accept that I know people who are incapable and require some help just to have simple things like milk and eggs and god forbid a dollar in their pocket.

We all hear about the abuse, but when the feel good story comes on the news about how someone got a free months worth of groceries who really can't get by without it, people tend disregard it. Or I commonly say to people, "there are plenty of people who donate to charities, it shouldn't be the governments responsibility" and after seeing first hand what non system abusers have to deal with, with legitimate need, I have softened my stance.

I would definitely do some sort of reform for the welfare lifestyle, those who plan on it as a means of gaming the system, but there are many who are truly disabled or unable to "get a job" as so many would say and walk away.

Don't give them money. Give them food. Not processed food, but healthful food that is prepared at home. Not gourmet food, but basic food that can be made tasty. See how fast the gamers leave the game.

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Originally posted by Nickelsig229:


Your assuming that all recipients are abusers of the system, lazy, or capable of getting gainful employment. It's a broad stroke of a paint brush you wield.

I wield it because it is true. You're assuming that they are not. See, here's the thing. I don't care. Not one bit. YOU DO NOT THROW MONEY AT A PROBLEM BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT BE GAMING THE SYSTEM.

This has exactly dick to do with helping people. If we gave two shits about helping people, the EBT system would look just like WIC. Want cereal? Not a problem, you can have King Vitamin. Want something else besides King Vitamin? Get a fucking job. You can have lean meats and vegetables. Want seafood? Get a fucking job. Want stuff with zero nutritional value? Get a fucking job.

But no. We wane at the "good it does" and continue to throw bad money after it. This has nothing to do with helping people, and if you can't see that, I really don't know what to tell you.

If I had my way, we'd shut it off entirely, and transition people to WIC if they truly were in need. But, this isn't about help. It's about keeping people on the plantation to keep them voting to keep the free soft drinks and HoHos turned on. EBT is that homeless guy under the overpass with the sign claiming he is hungry. And you pull up and hand him a ham sandwich to which he throws it on the ground and asks for money.

You always hear about pension systems about to run out of money, but you never hear about EBT running out of money. Why is that do you suppose?

Just wondering what the delivery success/failure rate will be?

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Originally posted by senza nome:
Just ondering what the delivery success/failure rate will be?

Exactly! I was stuck in line at Walmart Superstore the other day. Woman in front had 2 carts full of groceries, over $400 worth that she paid with a series of 4 EBT cards (kept fishing in her purse for another card). When she was gone I asked the checker if it was the largest order she ever had? NOPE, see it Every Day!

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Originally posted by golfrjd1:

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Originally posted by senza nome:
Just ondering what the delivery success/failure rate will be?

Exactly! I was stuck in line at Walmart Superstore the other day. Woman in front had 2 carts full of groceries, over $400 worth that she paid with a series of 4 EBT cards (kept fishing in her purse for another card). When she was gone I asked the checker if it was the largest order she ever had? NOPE, see it Every Day!

Was she four different people? Are sure some werent prepaid CCs or something?

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Originally posted by Skins2881:

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Originally posted by golfrjd1:

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Originally posted by senza nome:
Just ondering what the delivery success/failure rate will be?

Exactly! I was stuck in line at Walmart Superstore the other day. Woman in front had 2 carts full of groceries, over $400 worth that she paid with a series of 4 EBT cards (kept fishing in her purse for another card). When she was gone I asked the checker if it was the largest order she ever had? NOPE, see it Every Day!

Was she four different people? Are sure some werent prepaid CCs or something?

I see it all the time too. One card was her daughters, one her moms and the other her gram gram.

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Originally posted by gpbst3:

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Originally posted by Skins2881:

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Originally posted by golfrjd1:

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Originally posted by senza nome:
Just ondering what the delivery success/failure rate will be?

Exactly! I was stuck in line at Walmart Superstore the other day. Woman in front had 2 carts full of groceries, over $400 worth that she paid with a series of 4 EBT cards (kept fishing in her purse for another card). When she was gone I asked the checker if it was the largest order she ever had? NOPE, see it Every Day!

Was she four different people? Are sure some werent prepaid CCs or something?

I see it all the time too. One card was her daughters, one her moms and the other her gram gram.

Yep. Or they took it in on trade on a drug transaction. Which is very common.

They give .50 on the dollar or less for EBT, take the cards and buy high end food with it and then sell it. It’s a criminal enterprise.

This came up a couple years ago when Amazon bought Whole foods and they announced cheap or free Prime memberships for the " less fortunate" All to get that EBT money for Whole foods

Free shit! DELIVERED! It was only a matter of time. Regards 18DAI