Thanks for your homework, Bob! Very interesting!

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So I guess it is a Battleship, per se, just without the big 16” guns.

And without a helluva lot of steel armor plate.

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I believe I heard that the Battleships will have steel not aluminum in its build.
Apparently Trump has been concerned about too much aluminum and not enough steel in the construction of our current Warships.

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But not nearly as much steel as an Iowa class battleship.

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“Approximately 30K tons, about 850 feet long, tech specs in linked article. It’s is given a hull designation of “BBG”. The USS Iowa is 48K tons and 850 feet.”

Same length, but 18K tons less displacement.

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But not nearly as much steel as an Iowa class battleship.

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“Approximately 30K tons, about 850 feet long, tech specs in linked article. It’s is given a hull designation of “BBG”. The USS Iowa is 48K tons and 850 feet.”

Same length, but 18K tons less displacement.

Stronger steel at a lighter weight.

nuke powered?

I haven't seen anything on propulsion, but 30,000 tons could easily be driven by gas turbines. The Zumwalt is 16,000 tons, with about 100,000 shaft horsepower. The Iowas had something over 200,000 shp.

You could get 200,000 shp with four engine rooms / 4 shafts, 2 engines each, of LM2500, with little R&D.

https://www.breitbart.com/poli...tm_campaign=20251223

SCOTUS Rules Against Trump Sending National Guard to Sanctuary Chicago

The Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) has ruled against President Donald Trump’s plans to federalize and send 300 Illinois National Guardsmen to the sanctuary city of Chicago to help protect Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents from violent rioters.

In October, Trump had sought to deploy the National Guard to assist ICE agents, but a federal judge, appointed by former President Joe Biden, blocked the effort with a temporary restraining order.

When the Trump administration asked the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit to stay the judge’s order, the panel of judges denied the administration’s plea.

That is when the Trump administration asked SCOTUS to stay the federal judge’s order so National Guardsmen could be deployed to Chicago.

On Tuesday, SCOTUS ruled in a 6-3 decision that the Trump administration “has failed to identify a source of authority that would allow the military to execute the laws in Illinois,” and therefore the administration’s application for a stay was denied:

At this preliminary stage, the Government has failed to identify a source of authority that would allow the military to execute the laws in Illinois. The President has not invoked a statute that provides an exception to the Posse Comitatus Act. Instead, he relies on inherent constitutional authority that, according to the Government, allows him to use the military to protect federal personnel and property. But the Government also claims—consistent with the longstanding view of the Executive Branch—that performing such protective functions does not constitute “execut[ing] the laws” within the meaning of the Posse Comitatus Act. If that is correct, it is hard to see how performing those functions could constitute “execut[ing] the laws” under §12406(3). (“This Court does not lightly assume that Congress silently attaches different meanings to the same term in the same or related statutes”). Thus, at least in this posture, the Government has not carried its burden to show that §12406(3) permits the President to federalize the Guard in the exercise of inherent authority to protect federal personnel and property in Illinois. We need not and do not address the reviewability of findings made by the President under §12406(3) or any other statute. The application for stay is denied. [Emphasis added]

Justices John Roberts, Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, Amy Coney Barrett, and Ketanji Brown Jackson seemingly backed the unsigned order while Justice Brett Kavanaugh wrote a concurring opinion.

Justices Samuel Alito wrote a dissenting opinion, which Justice Clarence Thomas joined. Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote a dissenting opinion as well.

“Whatever one may think about the current administration’s enforcement of the immigration laws or the way ICE has conducted its operations, the protection of federal officers from potentially lethal attacks should not be thwarted,” Alito wrote in his dissenting opinion. “I therefore respectfully dissent.”

As Breitbart News has chronicled for months, violent rioters have descended on an ICE facility in Broadview, Illinois, where agents have not only been attacked, but rioters have chanted “Kill ICE!” and “Shoot ICE!”

The case is Trump v. Illinois, No. 25A443 in the Supreme Court of the United States.

Why does SCOTUS hate Chicago?

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
Why does SCOTUS hate Chicago?

Exactly!

https://www.breitbart.com/econ...tm_campaign=20251223

Trump Boom: U.S. Economy Grows 4.3%, Fastest in Two Years, Smashing Expectations

The U.S. economy grew this summer at the fastest pace in two years, far outpacing economists’ forecasts.

The Commerce Department said U.S. gross domestic product—the government’s official economic scorecard—rose at a seasonally and inflation-adjusted 4.3 percent annual rate in the third quarter. The report on the July through September period was delayed due to the shutdown.

“Today’s blockbuster, expectation-smashing GDP report is the latest proof that President Trump’s America First trade and economic agenda continues to turn the page on the Biden economic disaster: American consumers are spending, and American exports are surging,” White House spokesman Kush Desai said. “President Trump built the greatest economy in the world in his first term, and he’s in the process of doing it all over again. Americans can count on benefitting from a historic economic boom in 2026.”

Gross domestic product is a broad measure of the goods and services produced across the economy. Economists had expected the economy to grow at a 3.2 percent annual rate after the second quarter’s 3.8 percent growth.

Prior to the inflation adjustment, the economy grew at an 8.2 percent rate.

Real final sales to private domestic purchasers, a slice of GDP that some economists view as a clearer measure of the health of the private sector, grew at a 3.0 percent annual rate, up from three percent in the second quarter. This suggests that demand from consumers and businesses remained strong and gathered a bit of steam over the summer.

Consumer spending grew much faster than expected, expanding at a seasonally and inflation-adjusted annual rate of 3.5 percent. That’s up from 2.5 percent in the second quarter and above the 2.7 percent expected.

Donald Trump’s trade policies appear to have added to growth in the third quarter, as exports rose 8.8 percent while imports fell 4.7 percent. Exports add to GDP while imports, because they represent foreign production, are subtracted.

Government spending added 0.39 points to growth.

The main drag was private inventory investment, which subtracted 0.22 points as wholesalers and manufacturers drew down stocks. This is likely to reverse in future quarters, adding to growth in future quarters. Fixed investment grew only 1.0 percent, with residential investment declining 5.1 percent, reflecting the sluggish housing market.

Corporate profits soared in the third quarter, rising at a 17.9 percent annual rate after adjusting for inventory pricing effects and depreciation.

Due to the government shutdown, this “initial estimate” actually combines data typically used for both the advance and second estimates, so it may be more reliable than usual initial readings.

Is this a real cause for concern? Should we be lighting up the White House Phone number?

https://www.gunowners.org/na112425/

Written by Erich Pratt Published: 24 November 2025


"Gun owners need to contact the White House
In a stunning, ultimate betrayal of the Second Amendment, the Department of Justice responded to GOA’s One, Big, Beautiful lawsuit with a new attack on gun owners. The Trump administration is now actively DEFENDING the archaic National Firearms Act of 1934 using legal arguments straight out of the FDR playbook.

You read that right: the DOJ is fighting to keep the NFA alive, supporting gun registration under the so-called “Necessary and Proper” and “Commerce” Clauses. And they’ve even laid the groundwork for banning all handguns, claiming that the federal government can ban “particularly dangerous” and “easily concealable” firearms that can be used by violent criminals.

GOA is fighting back in court, but we need YOU to turn up the heat.

Please urge President Trump’s Department of Justice to STOP defending gun registration in court, STOP attacking the Second Amendment, and END the unconstitutional NFA."

Pam Bondi heads the DOJ. She is a staunch supporter of gun control and registration. Her role in the Trayvon Martin case when she was FL AG is glaring proof of this.
My apology to Sig Forum members. This was a shoot from the hip remark and I will try hard not to be so stupid here in the future.
Merry Christmas all.

Is it so hard to keep this tread clean and only about Trump's last 4 years?

In 11 months, Trump has accomplished truly what was thought as impossible, yet here we are with a list of wins a mile long.

Instead, it's like a dumpster. We owe the man a better record, truly has to be the only one like it, and a much better more respectful one than history will ever give him...and this is history gents.

Hear Hear!

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I’m dreaming of an ICE Christmas, just like the one I never knew

‘Cause that fucking Biden let through them aliens, such a wide open border

I’m dreaming of an ICE Christmas, with every Christmas card I write

May your days be merry and bright

And may all your Christmases be ICE

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Pam Bondi heads the DOJ. She is a staunch supporter of gun control and registration. Her role in the Trayvon Martin case when she was FL AG is glaring proof of this.

yes, its unsettling.

https://www.newsmax.com/us/u-s...dkt_nbr=010104hucex8

US Murder Rate Headed for Record 1-Year Drop

The U.S. appears headed for the largest one-year drop in murders in history, according to a well-known crime analyst.

That's the conclusion of crime statistics expert Jeff Asher, who says new national data show killings plunging at a pace not seen in modern recordkeeping.

According to Asher's Real-Time Crime Index (RTCI), the United States is on track for the biggest single-year decline in murders ever recorded — a striking reversal after the COVID-era crime surge.

Last month, FBI Director Kash Patel said the 2025 homicide rate will be the lowest in "modern history," crediting a bureau-wide shift toward fighting violent crime.

Independent analysts such as Asher say the data strongly point in that direction.

RTCI is a large national database that compiles reported crime data from hundreds of law enforcement agencies and is updated regularly, long before official federal numbers are released.

RTCI data currently available through October show murders down nearly 20% compared with the same period in 2024.

The index's glossary notes that its murder category excludes cases such as accidental deaths and deaths caused by negligence, meaning the index aims to track "willful (nonnegligent) killings," aligning closely with standard FBI definitions.

Asher earlier this fall cautioned that national crime estimates are often revised and that final "official" numbers can take years to settle.

Still, he argued the trend line is now so strong that the FBI will likely end up reporting the lowest U.S. murder rate ever recorded when full 2025 data are released, possibly dipping below the previous record low set in 2014.

The plunge in murders is also part of a broader drop in violent crime.

RTCI data show other major categories falling nationwide, including motor vehicle theft, robbery, and aggravated assault, suggesting the decline isn't limited to one region or one type of community.

Major cities are seeing some of the sharpest improvements.

Axios highlighted drops of nearly 20% in murders in New York City and Memphis, close to 28% in Chicago, and significant declines in Los Angeles County.

There are outliers, with a handful of jurisdictions reporting dramatic percentage spikes — a reminder that smaller agencies can see volatile swings from year to year.

The numbers arrive as President Donald Trump has made combating violent crime a major second-term priority.

The Trump administration is emphasizing stronger enforcement and expanded support for law enforcement.