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“ Elon Musk’s demand that federal workers justify their work is causing chaos.
What to know: Musk ordered all 2.3 million government employees to list their achievements or risk losing their jobs. Some officials, including defense leaders, told staff not to respond.”

In every job i have ever had, providing five bullet points for a week´s work would be very simple. I do not understand the reason for pushing against it!

Please give a rationale…


Acting NASA Administrator sent out an email to all their Civil Servants to disregard it as well. Then again, NASA regularly does weekly activity reports. So it would be redundant.


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From Washington Post-

“ Elon Musk’s demand that federal workers justify their work is causing chaos.
What to know: Musk ordered all 2.3 million government employees to list their achievements or risk losing their jobs. Some officials, including defense leaders, told staff not to respond.”

In every job i have ever had, providing five bullet points for a week´s work would be very simple. I do not understand the reason for pushing against it!

Please give a rationale…


Acting NASA Administrator sent out an email to all their Civil Servants to disregard it as well. Then again, NASA regularly does weekly activity reports. So it would be redundant.


I have had so many jobs where I had to document every minute I spent, particularly as a paralegal. I currently have to submit a weekly task log of what I did on my two weekly remote days. I have also been laid off multiple times/had my company sold off in Insurance and Tech. I am having a really hard time feeling sorry for these people being shocked at losing their cushy jobs. Welcome to the real world.
 
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I have had so many jobs where I had to document every minute I spent, particularly as a paralegal. I currently have to submit a weekly task log of what I did on my two weekly remote days. I have also been laid off multiple times/had my company sold off in Insurance and Tech. I am having a really hard time feeling sorry for these people being shocked at losing their cushy jobs. Welcome to the real world.


Excellent real world example. Well said Melissa.



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When you look at DTs production for his first month, compared to the output of sleepy joe, you figure the dims think DT has earned a round or two of golf?
 
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I have worked for four Fortune 500 companies over my working career. I would have never left the first one but they dissolved the department I worked in. I moved on and landed at another Fortune 500 company when after 5 years they were purchased by a foreign entity and I was again laid off after downsizing. Well I wound up at yet a third Fortune 500 company where after seven years I had to choose between a relocation or taking a severance package. Having three school aged kids at the time I didn't want to relocate them so I took the severance package. The fourth one finally stuck but I took an early retirement after 15 years to help the wife run our distribution business. Which is not a Fortune 500 company! Razz

No news media ever came to interview me after any one of those layoffs and I never cried once! My bosses were always more emotional about it than I was I just figured this was normal operating procedure. My saying always was "I was looking for a job when I found this one so I'll just start looking again"

Yeah I don't feel the least bit sorry for any of these people. There are plenty of jobs out there and soon to be plenty more. Stop crying for the media, stop whining on Tik Tok and get out there and find a job. What they are crying about is losing a job where they got paid a lot to do little and could retire in twenty years with the same pay and benefits.


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When my college acceptance letters started rolling in during my senior year in private school, my dad went to work one day and the door were locked and there was a note in the window on where to pick up his last check.

And something very similar has happened to me once as a college student and twice in a professional adult. It's not uncommon at all. I had a job waiting tables a few hours after I lost my first professional job. I wasn't waiting around for a minute. My sister had a boss die on her first day on the job and he was a sole proprietor.
 
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I really hope for all states to end property tax at age 65 for homeowners, but I realize this is a pipe dream.

Elderly people who have worked all their life and paid off their home sometimes lose their home because they can't afford the property tax, and that is a moral outrage.


I agree it's a travesty that someone who worked all their lives, bought a home and now that they're retired the government taxes then out of it. Either eliminate property taxes for people retired and over 65 or base their property taxes on a small percentage of their retirement income.
 
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As a federal employee (one providing a service, not a bureaucrat) I am loving this. My supervisor and on up the chain of command are in a panic, and yet how soon they forget the stress they caused us workers when they threatened to terminate our employment over our refusal to take a shot.

It wasn't until I threatened my supervisor back during the election infection with prison for Deprivation of Rights that she backed off.

Today I took my son to the school bus, and logged into my work computer from home at 0630 (I telework due to a medical accommodation). I had the email from OPM asking me to state my accomplishments from last week, and no less than three emails from the Chief Executive Assistant, the LtCol (commander of the district), and a two star general (commander of the Pacific Northwest region) which told me to not respond to the OPM email.

I responded with no less than 12 bullets of what I accomplished last week.

At five minutes to 3:00 PM I got a call from my supervisor asking me to look at another email from the CEA stating we could ignore OPM's email, respond to OPM's email and state we were told to not respond, or respond and say nothing less.

Watching the supervisors and above sweat is making me giddy. I find myself smiling often.

As a Supply Technician (government credit card holder) I spend more than any other Supply Technician in our district (and yes all purchases are proper and meet the time, purpose, and amount statutes for fiscal law). My purchases are 10,000.00 or less for parts, tools, materials, safety gear to keep the hydroelectric dam running (it went into commission in 1954).


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I was 100% remote for 4+ years. Was in frequent contact with my boss on email, phone and text. I was also living 2 hours ahead of HQ. I’d send emails at midnight-1 am my time and get relief from her. She knew I was working on deals. In fact when remote I was working way more hours than in the office.
 
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A fairly common methodology for software development is called Agile. One of the practices is to have a "stand up" meeting every day where you and your team members mention what you were working on, are working on, and what roadblocks you may have. The meeting is very short but everybody knows what everyone else is doing. I'm pretty sure I know precisely why Federal employees are so reluctant to write exactly one email with 5 bullet points stating what they were doing.
 
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As a federal employee (one providing a service, not a bureaucrat) I am loving this. My supervisor and on up the chain of command are in a panic, and yet how soon they forget the stress they caused us workers when they threatened to terminate our employment over our refusal to take a shot.


The hypocrisy and double standard is amazing, the same supervisors and others that were onboard with firing employees who refused the jab no matter the reason are now telling employees to ignore the request to respond to an simple email listing their accomplishments for the week to help identify ghost employees. If in fact there are ghost employees on the federal payroll identifying them and removing them from the roles will eventually save jobs so refusing to respond to Musk's email they're actually hurting themselves. This is the same leaders and media that supported soldiers being kicked off active duty as well as the reserves if they refused the shot. I hope Trump fires any supervisor encouraging employees to ignore the order. Won't take long before these supervisors fall inline and comply.
 
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I hope Trump fires any supervisor encouraging employees to ignore the order. Won't take long before these supervisors fall inline and comply.
Didn’t I read in this very thread that Kash Patel directed all FBI employees not to respond to this email? If I’m not misremembering and that post was correct, I certainly don’t hope that PDJT fires Director Patel.

When I saw that, it occurred to me that there are probably a lot of FBI agents working on things that perhaps should not be emailed out of the bureau, and that there are probably other departments where their internal work shouldn’t be exposed externally.

However, the right answer is likely for those agencies/departments/bureaus to roll that up internally.

“To all <agency> employees who received the email from DOGE: Do NOT respond directly to that DOGE email. Instead, send your response to me, your agency head, at <thisaddr>. This will both help me to better get to know the agency and where effort is focused and aid me in being accountable to the President’s focus on efficiency and accountability. Going forward I will likely modify the reporting somewhat, but you should plan on reporting up your chain of command on what you have accomplished for the American people. I would strongly suggest that you should at least be taking notes no less frequently than each week about what you have accomplished for the American people and the United States. Thank you for your cooperation.”
 
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As devoid as the dims are to having any path to return to power, carville's advice to "let them implode" is as good as any. Obviously the dim electorate is dumb enough and dupable to believe anything, so they may as well hang their hats on this plan. They'll probably be stunned in a few years when they learn this plan didn't work, except that they aren't smart enough to put 2 and 2 together. They may remember that carville told them they'd be in power again by doing nothing, but will probably forget why.
 
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Now that we are 35 days into DJT's Presidency, what is the biggest WOW or surprise for you so far?

For me?

It's how they discovered that USAID was nothing but a giant, elaborate slush fund for Democrats and how it's all getting reined way back in if not shut down.


 
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The DOGE Five Point Palm Exposing Work Technique email is more than finding who's really working, if there are non existent people on the payroll still, its purpose was to sniff out problem management people and their departments.

It could take months or years to find all the problem people, and you know they would lie to any DOGE personnel face.

Trump and Musk know that there are problems at the top, and that it trickles down through management. Now those people have revealed themselves to DOGE and the world with there missives to ignore the email.

Biggest smoke out of the DC snakes, and it was so easily done, you just prey on their hatred and belief that they have no vulnerabilities as part of the DC swamp...

Chess, not checkers...
 
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The press seems particularly interested in recently fired IRS employees, I've seen at least 5 of them interviewed, more than any other agency except perhaps USAID.

What's strange to me is how in all the IRS interviews the former employee says it was their "dream job"... Working for the IRS is a "dream job"?? Roll Eyes


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It may have been a dream job in that they could never have dreamed they'd lose their job. Coast to retirement, work from home, great benefits. What's not to dream about?
 
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Hank "Guam gonna tip over" Johnson is easily the stupidest member of Congress.


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Hank "Guam gonna tip over" Johnson is easily the stupidest member of Congress.


Have the USMS serve a contempt charge against someone but the POTUS or AG interferes?

Is he referring to Obama and Eric Holder?

Holder's the only AG I know of held IN CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS who never was served.





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I really hope for all states to end property tax at age 65 for homeowners, but I realize this is a pipe dream.

Elderly people who have worked all their life and paid off their home sometimes lose their home because they can't afford the property tax, and that is a moral outrage.


DeSantis is starting a movement for this. Basically property taxes are local, city and county, schools locally. So the state can't stop them, however we as citizens can by voting in a constitutional amendment.

https://x.com/FLVoiceNews/status/1894053436850606232

 
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