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Boeing Starliner put in incorrect orbit.(ISS replenish craft)
December 20, 2019, 10:39 AM
sigmonkeyBoeing Starliner put in incorrect orbit.(ISS replenish craft)
It's not like this is rocket scie.... Oh, wait.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/2...l-space-station.html
"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! December 20, 2019, 11:01 AM
RHINOWSOYeah saw something about the spacecraft clock being “incorrect”.
Doh!!! I think the Boeing people are going to have a painful holiday season...
December 20, 2019, 11:02 AM
BurtonRWIt sure has been a rough December for them.
Where's Elon Musk when you need him? LOL.
-Rob
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A=A December 20, 2019, 11:02 AM
RHINOWSOLikely cause by too much negative mojo by Boeing when SpaceX blew up their test vehicle during ground ops...
Looks like SpaceX is back in the lead... for now anyway...
December 20, 2019, 11:03 AM
Sig2340Starliner thought it was on an orbital insertion burn..."
I bet there is an insurance carrier feeling an orbital insertion burn.
Nice is overrated
"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government."
Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
December 20, 2019, 11:05 AM
RHINOWSOSomething that big and I bet Boeing has to self insure. Don't think there is a huge market for insuring space launches, but I could be wrong. Lloyds of London is in some weird stuff...
December 20, 2019, 11:05 AM
PASigquote:
Originally posted by BurtonRW:
It sure has been a rough December for them.
-Rob
December? It's been a rough year or two for them with the 737 Max fiasco and now this? Damn.
December 20, 2019, 11:10 AM
corsair- 737 MAX grounding
- Loosing the Quantas Airlines' Project Sunrise competition
- Delays and problems with the USAF KC-46 program
- 737NG pickle fork problems
- Aeroflots cancellation of 22 787's
- 777 engine problems with GE
Things ain't going too well at Boeing
December 20, 2019, 11:29 AM
Jimbo54I think a lot of employees will lose their jobs over this and the 737 MAX fiasco. It's going to take years to undo the damage to Boeings image worldwide. It's a shame really.
Jim
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December 20, 2019, 11:33 AM
PowerSurgeWhen production on the 737 Max is stopped next month I’m hoping the US economy isn’t damaged too badly.
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December 20, 2019, 12:20 PM
Jagerquote:
Originally posted by Jimbo54:
I think a lot of employees will lose their jobs over this and the 737 MAX fiasco. It's going to take years to undo the damage to Boeings image worldwide. It's a shame really.
Jim
Sandeep: You not to worry. We get you more engineers from Mumbai. All to be good soon. I call Infosys now.
December 20, 2019, 12:30 PM
mojojojoquote:
Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
Likely cause by too much negative mojo..
Hey! I was thinking happy thoughts
Icarus flew too close to the sun, but at least he flew. December 20, 2019, 12:46 PM
sigmonkey^^^
Sez the guy what drove a repulsive airchine.
"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! December 20, 2019, 02:22 PM
Blackmorequote:
Where's Elon Musk the Russians when you need them? LOL.
Harshest Dream, Reality
December 20, 2019, 02:25 PM
RHINOWSOquote:
Originally posted by Blackmore:
quote:
Where's Elon Musk the Russians when you need them? LOL.
Yeah, you have to hand it to the Russians - developing a spacecraft and updating it as they go.
Instead of developing one like Apollo, working all the bugs out, then dumping it for the Space Shuttle, then dumping it with nothing else flying, only to start making 3 "Apollo like" Spacecraft again. Which will be flying someday, maybe.
Dumb, dumb, and dumb.
December 20, 2019, 02:35 PM
ArtieSTop. Men.
"I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation."
Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II.
December 20, 2019, 02:44 PM
trapper189quote:
Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
quote:
Originally posted by Blackmore:
quote:
Where's Elon Musk the Russians when you need them? LOL.
Yeah, you have to hand it to the Russians - developing a spacecraft and updating it as they go.
Instead of developing one like Apollo, working all the bugs out, then dumping it for the Space Shuttle, then dumping it with nothing else flying, only to start making 3 "Apollo like" Spacecraft again. Which will be flying someday, maybe.
Dumb, dumb, and dumb.
I wouldn't call the first one a "bug", but it was dumb, dumb, dumb.
December 20, 2019, 02:54 PM
Dakorquote:
Originally posted by corsair:
- 737 MAX grounding
- Loosing the Quantas Airlines' Project Sunrise competition
- Delays and problems with the USAF KC-46 program
- 737NG pickle fork problems
- Aeroflots cancellation of 22 787's
- 777 engine problems with GE
Things ain't going too well at Boeing
The string of issues is so significant, it must start with piss-poor executive leadership and a poor quality + engineering culture. Boeing shareholders need to demand changes within the topmost ranks to right the ship.
December 20, 2019, 03:02 PM
RHINOWSOquote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
I wouldn't call the first one a "bug", but it was dumb, dumb, dumb.
I simply meant we had done all the hard work of wringing the Apollo CSM out and then we cancel them to work on the Shuttle with nothing flying for 5+ years.
Then we get the Shuttle going and cancel it before having something flying, going on nearly 9 years now hitching rides on the Soyuz.
Hopefully we have learned our lesson and will use Orion, Dragon, and Starliner to good effect and then only retire them when we already have a viable replacement flying.
December 20, 2019, 03:17 PM
MattWThe local Boeing facility here in Charleston is being hammered with racial/wrongful termination lawsuits as well. Up until recently it seemed as if a new one was hitting the local news sites once a month.