Have a newish manager at work. I’ve worked along side for him for 10 years doing the same job. He was promoted in December.( No issue I never applied. For that job)

He has become increasing diffulcult to work with. Up to and including telling me in front of the rest of the team. If you don’t like doing stuff go find a new job. And also saying I hope you find a new job.

I work for the state so it’s not a private company. The union has been notified before about this person. And HR was notified by the union today about comments made to me.

I have had a couple interviews set up and have not heard anything back.

So what my end game keep working and then tell him off or just quit take me pension and leave and go to a private sector job.? Pension is pretty high up in stuff. I would be able to pay off everything and go take a lesser paying job.

I work with all engineersnwhomhave no management know how and don’t care about our job as non engineers and are just peasants.

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If it’s serious enough to quit then find another job, give your notice and say no more. We all want to tell off the fucktard bosses at some point. But it is never a good idea and could come back to haunt you. Just leave and be satisfied enough with that.


Unless you win powerball. Then tell him to fuck off.

I guess you're an engineer? Are you willing to relocate? Can you move laterally to a different department in the state.gov? Will HR slow this guy down? Lots of questions.

Knowing what I know after reading your post, get a resume together that can easily be targeted to specific job openings. Get a cover letter together that will give a prospective employer a reason to read your resume. Get recommendations from previous managers and fellow workers before applying for a position. Search monster.com, indeed.com, etc., etc. EVERY DAY. Adjust your resume to each job when applying. Personally I keep my profile private on the job sites and actively apply for positions. In short, take on a second job and make it finding a job.

A few resume building sites I found doing a quick Google search. I'm sure with a little research you can do better than my search.

https://zety.com/blog/best-online-resume-builders
https://www.canva.com/create/resumes/

Did you get along with him during those 10 years or was he hard to work with before his promotion too? If the former then it sounds like his new position went straight to his head/ego, and probably won't change, especially if you get him into hot water with HR. If he's always been a pain then he almost certainly always will be. Either way, if I was you I'd be giving some really serious thought to bailing. Especially if your own prospects for landing another decent job are good.

I’d tell him he needs to find another job. I’m here to stay. Deal with it.

I would always want to have another job lined up or at least know my options before doing anything.

I'd also be extremely careful about what you say to him going forward until your options are worked out.

We have had recent threads on this topic. If it is a toxic situation I think getting out is worth thinking about. Sounds like you could do it and maybe close to retirement.

Freedom is a powerful thing. Working "toward" retirement could be a thing of the past.

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Up to and including telling me in front of the rest of the team. If you don’t like doing stuff go find a new job. And also saying I hope you find a new job.

If you are a slacker, own it. If not, I would have asked him///Who the fuck does he think He's talking to?? Give that fucker shit all day every day, make him cry

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I work for the state so it’s not a private company. The union has been notified before about this person. And HR was notified by the union today about comments made to me.

In the current environment of hyper-sensitive complaining....I'd go to HR or, whomever you need to file complaints.
Make sure you have a record of EVERY SINGLE incident where this guy came at you with a bad attitude irregardless of how small or trivial. This guy is making your life and your job hell, he's got no tact, zero understanding of professionalism nor, aptitude for leadership. Use the current zeitgeist of thin-skinned corporate sensitivity and use it to your advantage, this guy is creating a toxic work environment forcing you to consider leaving a job you've had for 10-years.

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Originally posted by corsair:

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I work for the state so it’s not a private company. The union has been notified before about this person. And HR was notified by the union today about comments made to me.

In the current environment of hyper-sensitive complaining....I'd go to HR or, whomever you need to file complaints.
Make sure you have a record of EVERY SINGLE incident where this guy came at you with a bad attitude irregardless of how small or trivial. This guy is making your life and your job hell, he's got no tact, zero understanding of professionalism nor, aptitude for leadership. Use the current zeitgeist of thin-skinned corporate sensitivity and use it to your advantage, this guy is creating a toxic work environment forcing you to consider leaving a job you've had for 10-years.

I would go with this angle. People don’t typically leave jobs they have been at for several years they leave managers.

You know, they make those sexy little pens that fit in your pocket and record everything he says to you…

Union State Job?
I would make him cry every day till he gets HIS ass canned!
Personally I would have fun with it, dealt with those kind of people for 40 years.
Smile while you make him miserable!

Document everything.
just in case.

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Originally posted by DLC762:
Document everything.
just in case.

This.

Back when I was working and was concerned I was getting set up to be fired, I documented everything to support my side of the story: dates, people on the call/in the room, what was said, etc. I even developed a system of transcribing conversations; I had code for if it was a verbatim quote or if I was recording what was said to the best of my recollection.

I didn't end up needing it, but when I left it was almost 100 pages long. If they would have tried to fire me, it would have been a pretty ugly.

Try to ignore them?


I was supervisor for 28 guys... well, 26 guys and 2 women. State/Union job.

I tell people... "Do you remember that old hockey game where you moved the players around by moving and turning the rods?"



"Being a supervisor here is like playing that game, only you're not allowed to touch the rods."

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Originally posted by MoosehornMan:
Union State Job?
I would make him cry every day till he gets HIS ass canned!
Personally I would have fun with it, dealt with those kind of people for 40 years.
Smile while you make him miserable!

!!!!!THIS!!!!! I agree 100%. No way in hell a man is going to tell me when I'll leave my nice State job with pension that I've earned. Clearly he would take action against you if he could. The fact that he hasn't tells you that your job is secure. Document his actions and convos daily and look for a position that is an UPGRADE, not downgrade or lateral. I'm going nowhere til I'm good n damn ready or paid and promoted to better things.

I know first hand what it's like when somebody is trying to make you quit . They can't fire you , so they try to make you miserable enough to leave on your own . If you stay it will probably get worse so you take him on with whatever is at your disposal . Use the Union . File grievances whenever his actions warrant . Upper management does not like dealing with that headache .

In my 42 years of experience I have had some really screwed up bosses. I find that lousy bosses have a shelf life of about 2 - 3 years by which time they get called out and move on willingly or otherwise. Wait him out.

The Art of War and Col. Boyd’s OODA cycles have served me well over the years. Wouldn’t say the same for those who provoked me into putting those texts into practice.

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Does he see you as some sort of threat or competition? From your account, it sounds like he’s trying to get rid of you because of that, I would not play into it.