At least they do according to the FBI

http://m.washingtontimes.com/n...-anti-cop-hostility/

I can understand the reluctance by LEOs to deal with these assholes.

Risk your personal well being, or getting sued, or fired for trying to do your job. I know some are no longer willing to risk it all for those reasons.

I also know a couple who just walked into the HQ and quit.

IDK how much was spent to reach this finding, but anybody here could've told them the police are hamstrung from the past eight years of fostering militant defiance. This all goes back to BHO butting into the Henry Gates incident.

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Originally posted by Opus Dei:
IDK how much was spent to reach this finding, but anybody here could've told them the police are hamstrung from the past eight years of fostering militant defiance. This all goes back to BHO butting into the Henry Gates incident.

^^^ This. He set the tone - "Black good/Police Bad".

Bastard! There goes law and order until some heads are knocked.

RMD

As long as the residents and local businesses are supporting Black Lies Matter they should be good with law enforcement being scarce.

Welcome to the enduring legacy of the worst president in American history.

The current administration needs to list BLM, Antifa, and any similar organizations as terrorist organizations, and LE needs to deal with them appropriately as such. Oh, and the media should be openly vilified by politicians and the public when they stoke this crap with lies and slanted reporting.

I did not read article, but I can tell you without doubt that the paradigm of police work has changed forever.

For a long time back in the old days, one of the main way the cops discriminated against blacks was simply to ignore crimes in black areas where blacks were the victims. They could do whatever they wanted to each other, and the police wouldn't intervene. If they victimized a white, there'd be hell to pay, though.

It seems like a lot of blacks today want to go back to that system (at least part of it.)

BLM doesn't scare the rank-and-file, BLM scares the chickenshit police bureaucracy.

Not sure I would phrase it as being scared... I think there is a natural concern about not being supported if things get hairy.

Seems like the study I read was more about the thugs feeling emboldened by the way the political leaders were not supporting the rank and file or actually going out of their way to obstruct them...

I'm a law and order guy but there should be a way for the police to go get some coffee and dinner for an evening and let regular folks clean things up. I don't want officers taking things into their own hands as it diminishes their legitimacy for their daily responsibilities. I just want all of them to take a night off...

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Originally posted by chongosuerte:
I did not read article, but I can tell you without doubt that the paradigm of police work has changed forever.

I saw the same things in the mid-1970's, but the pendulum swung back when the power of criminal street gangs increased exponentially through the sale of drugs like PCP and "Rock" cocaine. The working man or woman will only take so much crap from those who just want to take, before they start demanding that law enforcement starts earning their pay and benefits by enforcing the law.

Too many young people today aren't aware of how much crime was reduced through programs like "Use a Gun-Go to Jail", "Three Strikes", and mandatory sentencing programs for serious crimes. Well, stand by. All these people being released under the auspicious of "social justice" (forgive and forget) programs are NOT going to be earning their livings as IT geniuses , rap stars, or Pulitzer Prize winning authors. The crime rate in California is accelerating rapidly and like before, honest people are going to get fed up....real fast.

I lorn for the good ole days of Frank Rizzo COP Philadelphia. They never met a head that broke a maple baton

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Originally posted by roberth:
BLM doesn't scare the rank-and-file, BLM scares the chickenshit police bureaucracy.

+1

The report is here: (only 4 pages)

http://media.washtimes.com.s3....2017/05/04/study.pdf







The conclusion is a damning comment on the Obama DoJ

The way the police are being treated by msm, blm and the rest of the leftist antifa groups I can fully understand an unwritten policy of smile and wave.

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Originally posted by pulicords:

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Originally posted by chongosuerte:
I did not read article, but I can tell you without doubt that the paradigm of police work has changed forever.

I saw the same things in the mid-1970's, but the pendulum swung back when the power of criminal street gangs increased exponentially through the sale of drugs like PCP and "Rock" cocaine. The working man or woman will only take so much crap from those who just want to take, before they start demanding that law enforcement starts earning their pay and benefits by enforcing the law.

Too many young people today aren't aware of how much crime was reduced through programs like "Use a Gun-Go to Jail", "Three Strikes", and mandatory sentencing programs for serious crimes. Well, stand by. All these people being released under the auspicious of "social justice" (forgive and forget) programs are NOT going to be earning their livings as IT geniuses , rap stars, or Pulitzer Prize winning authors. The crime rate in California is accelerating rapidly and like before, honest people are going to get fed up....real fast.

I follow you on this...

I am ready to be a real cop again when society asks...until then I'm doing what I believe they want, which is in stark contrast to what I did the first half of my career.

But I stand ready, and I haven't forgotten how to do it.

Chongo,

Its where you work, bro. Society around here seems to take the opinion of "He got his ass kicked by the police? What did he do? He deserved it I am sure".

Maybe I am just lucky to live in this state.

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Originally posted by jljones:
Chongo,

Its where you work, bro. Society around here seems to take the opinion of "He got his ass kicked by the police? What did he do? He deserved it I am sure".

Maybe I am just lucky to live in this state.

I guess I don't realize that. I see it as nation wide, but my view is through my own world and the MSM articles that pop up every week. In my own world I have seen righteous officers jammed up, and rioters turn out by the hundreds for clearly good shoots. I've had to personally testify in a fellow officer's trial, and watched sat in court while another officer was tried for what we all felt was a good shoot. North Carolina isn't really a conservative stronghold, so that probably makes a difference.

I just saw an article on Policeone where a deputy somewhere got shitcanned for goofing off 'with the guys'. As I understood, he wasn't out in public but was among other officers doing stupid stuff. Somehow it ended up on video and *boom* fired. I was reading an article or a post, here or somewhere else, about how cameras everywhere are killing the profession not because we don't want to be recorded, but because we can't be human for fear of an administrator watching the video and writing us up or firing us.

I'm waiting for the pendulum. I am thankful that I got all my stupid, crazy, and news-worthy mistakes and poor decisions out of my way before wide-spread GPS, license plate readers, and stupid cell phones were everywhere. I did some outstandingly stupid shit in my first 5 years that would have made any old-timer chuckle.

Now it's just survival until retirement, 17 or 18 more years, unless the winds change.

Yeah. BS is everywhere. People seem to have a short leash around here. Block an interstate? Yeah, that works for about 10 seconds and then residents want blood. Protest? Sure. Knock yourself out. Until it closes a street, or causes property damage. Then, residents want blood.

People around here have a low BS tolerance it seems. Even in Louisville, and Lexington it is tame compared to what you guys see.

I don't consider it as scared I feel like it is more a cover your ass situation because they know that if they do their job and the media gets on their ass that the brass might not stand behind them or some DA might be looking to feather his or her nest . No fun being tried in the court of public opinion (misguided or not)!