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Haven't more than glanced at a daily paper in years; I get all my news on the internet from forums, links, blogs, etc., because I know what I will get from the MSM, and it's not what I want to read.

Happened to see a copy of our local big-city newspaper left on the next table at coffee shop at breakfast and picked it up to page through it. It felt so natural to hold it up, flip through the pages two-handed till I saw something I wanted to read, then fold it back, and back some more to make it a manageable size. I'd much rather read from something physical in my hands than from a computer screen in front of me. Too bad what's happened to journalism as I think of it from decades ago.
 
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Too bad what's happened to journalism as I think of it from decades ago.

Problem is, I would guestimate that about 90% of what you see online, or even on FNC or CNN or wherever, is not "journalism". Rather, it is opinion.

I agree with you though, I fondly remember walking out in the morning and pulling the paper from the tube and enjoying it over a morning cup of coffee, finishing up with the crossword and cryptoquote. It was a morning ritual.

It would be nice to go back to the days of real journalism. Report what happened, in an unbiased way. Opinion should be left to the editorial page. Everything else should be simply fact.

The internet and modern day TV with 24 hour news/opinion will be our downfall.


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I used to enjoy perusing the classified ads. There were several pages of them. Now there’s only a half page and there’s usually nothing there worth looking at.
 
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The two Detroit daily newspapers now alternate days in print, the remainder of the time they are online.

Occasionally I will buy a Sunday Free Press mainly for the comics. The rest of it I can ignore in total. Once in a while there will be a good feature, more often not.

Our local paper prints on a seven day basis. Gannett owned, I'll leave it at that.

Reminds me of a line I heard many years ago during a newspaper strike in Albuquerque "They're killing good trees to make a poor newspaper."


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We cancelled the local paper several years ago, nothing in it worth reading, full of advertisements for furniture, cars, even the funny pages wasn't interesting....

Of course the obviously bias reporting didn't help, our paper is owned by Shitcago Tribune once they bought it the paper went to turdsville USA
 
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We still get the paper because my wife is technologically handicapped. Smile I only use it for starting the fireplace.

I, on the other hand enjoy getting my current news events, comics and sports online. I still do it while drinking my morning coffee as before.

Jim


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Problem is, I would guestimate that about 90% of what you see online, or even on FNC or CNN or wherever, is not "journalism". Rather, it is opinion.



In some cases it is opinion. In many cases, IMO, it is more wishful thinking!

Way back when (1968) when we had come back to the states (Maryland) we took the local fish wrapper. Until it got so bad (remember, this was in 1968) that we canceled it, and have not taken a newspaper since then.

I occasionally pick up one from a stack of those "free" papers at the local Food lion. Great for starting the wood stove in the morning. Never read it. That news print beats hell out of those slick advertisements we get in the mail all the time.


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Somehow I clicked on this thinking it was from the Screaming Cockatoo. He needed something extra under the Cockatoo Tree.

Newspapers also came in handy for masking a two tone paint job.

You guys are funny when you talk about actually reading the stuff.



 
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We subscribe to our daily tiny-town newspaper. It's a positive for us.




 
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I miss believing newspapers gave out accurate, reliable, timely and objective information.
It would take a lot to make that come back, and I don’t think it can happen.
For one thing, Craigslist destroyed classified advertising all over the country, and nothing has replaced that large cash cow.


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The print newspaper here, The Denver Post, has become the Washington Post West. The staff has been reduced to a skeleton crew. Not a great paper these days.

But...I still have it delivered. I've read the newspaper every morning for as long as I can really remember. I get the online version with the subscription but that's not the same.

My Father passed away in 2009. He was one hell of a good guy. Almost the exact day that the Rocky Mountain News shut down operations. One
sad time for me. I truly miss them both.


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I miss my newspaper, because that's what I save to light my wood stove with during the winter.
 
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I pick up the Sunday paper for my girlfriend. She gets coupons and likes the Sunday routine of reading the paper.

The comics usually have 1 or 2 good ones.


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I still subscribe to the Mining Urinal. I mean Journal. They print stories the local TV folks wont and it is a good source of info for community events.
As far as actual news.... Not much to be found in it.
And I do the puzzle. Oddly enough, the word scramble puzzle is.... Australian!


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From Dr. Michael Crichton (M.D., creator of ER and Jurassic Park, Critic of man made Global Warming, etc.)

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Media carries with it a credibility that is totally undeserved. You have all experienced this, in what I call the Murray Gell-Mann Amnesia effect. (I refer to it by this name because I once discussed it with Murray Gell-Mann, and by dropping a famous name I imply greater importance to myself, and to the effect, than it would otherwise have.)

Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.

In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.


Full article here: http://larvatus.com/michael-crichton-why-speculate/





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Damn, I miss newspapers
Me too! Just last night I couldn't get the GD GFCI plug by the BGE to work in order to light the charcoal with my Looftlighter. I found myself wishing I had a newspaper to wad up and put in my chimney charcoal starter.



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Damn, I miss newspapers


Not me. Not one bit.

Last time I subscribed to a publication, the WSJ back in the early mid 90s- I stopped because for 2 years, I was throwing away the paper still wrapped in plastic. The above Murray GellMann explanation was how I felt back then. And I still have the same opinion now; I don't watch TV news and I rarely glance at any mainstream news online publications (FoxNews included). I pretty much get news from this site, and if the thread title is interesting, I will read.



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Once upon a time I subscribed to Wall St. Journal, Seattle Times, Kitsap Sun (county fishwrap), Time, New Republic, The Economist, The New Yorker, Harper's, and a couple of other professional journals.

I was perhaps the hippest most misinformed individual on the planet. By 2005 I was down to the WSJ; as the price went up my interest went down and of course Peggy Noonan decided to piss me off.

I now receive a couple of outdoor magazines because of support for a couple of groups and that's it and I'm the better for it. I listen to friends and neighbors and I hear a stream of unconsciousness that must make the press-pimps proud with their having convinced so many that libels, invective and veiled and not-so-veiled threats are journalism. I'd rather read the scrivenings of our own closet lefties on The Forum; their opinions blow but they tend to have their facts right.

The Legacy Media has secured its position as the antiquated-media, a curiosity to show your friends, not a particularly useful item, except as above-mentioned fish-wrap and the ever useful fire-starter.


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We cancelled the local paper several years ago, nothing in it worth reading, full of advertisements for furniture, cars, even the funny pages wasn't interesting....

Of course the obviously bias reporting didn't help, our paper is owned by Shitcago Tribune once they bought it the paper went to turdsville USA
And that paper, The Orlando Sentinel, is just about on death's door at this point. Personally, I can't wait to see them board up that building in downtown once and for all. Every time I make the mistake of picking a copy up at the doctor's office or elsewhere and attempting to plow through a couple stories, I end up with a headache dealing with the grammar, spelling, and missing words/phrases issues. It 'used' to be written for a six year old. It doesn't even reach that bar anymore.


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I hate newspapers. Mad
They're not current.
Total Liberal bias.
They take up way too much room.
I told my wife that if she dies before me I'm cancelling the paper even before her obit. Eek
 
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