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We had a wonderful receptionist. She did much much more than answer the phone and greet people. She was the go to for an answer of many questions.
Unfortunately, she was laid off because some moron decided that everyone that works in our building must have a 4 year degree.

So now, they can't find a replacement because they want to pay low wage but expect a college graduate.

The mindset that everyone must go to college has to end.


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Posts: 235 | Location: Crestview Florida | Registered: July 23, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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That's retarded to lay her off. Just make the decision going forward on new hires.




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That sucks.
If you can perform your job (in a position that shouldn't explicitly require a degree) without it, keep on trucking, IMO.




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What a stupid asshole, why in the heck would a receptionist need a 4 year degree?


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Your company needs someone with a Kg. diploma running it, to make better decisions. I think it speaks to the stupidity of HR or whoever is making these decisions.
 
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And yet one more demonstration that a four-year degree (or more) does not keep people from making stunningly stupid decisions.




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I would argue that many degrees are quite good indicators of stupidity. Wink





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I saw a law firm in NYC requiring a college degree (they did not say which degree) for their receptionist position. It paid $16/hour. Roll Eyes

But then people get that college degree and then the employer says they don't have professional certification. Get that professional certification and the employer says they don't have experience.

It's a vicious cycle and employers are doing it because "that's the way it's always been done" and don't know how to change.

To me, college was a waste of time and money.


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LMAO… Certification is even worse. If you have PMI after your title, I’m not even gonna bother.





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LMAO… Certification is even worse. If you have PMI after your title, I’m not even gonna bother.


There's a fact.

I've got around 12 professional certifications. Only 2 of them are for real, the other 10 are nothing more than attendance certificates. I told a lot of people in the business that was the way it was, but a bunch of people think that certifications mean something. Some do, but in my experience, most don't.

The two I have that are for real both have flunk rates of around 50% which shows the subject matter is difficult and the test is not open book and requires real knowledge.

I'm proud of those two.
 
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After that employee that was let go because they did not have a degree did they try and bring in someone who might have some type of personal connection (such as family member / friend/etc.) and then using their job position to manipulate the position for personal gain. Would not be the first time that such things have happened. ..... Just because someone might have one or multible degrees does not mean that even after given written instructions that the could be able to pour water out of a boot... .............. drill sgt.
 
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I didn’t mean to impugn all certifications… That would be a gross overreach.

All I’m saying is certain degrees and certifications tell me a lot about you; not necessarily good things either.





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Doesn't matter if they can do the job or not, as long as someone in HR can feel good about themselves. Roll Eyes




 
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When I looked at jobs at Google many years ago they seemed like they wanted only degree holders no matter the job.

The jobs I was looking at were in their Fleet Services or Maintenance area, similar to what I had been doing at Auto Dealers for years.
 
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Certs are bad. We needed a Linux IT guy. HR has a standard set of Dos certs they require. Guy shows up and quits 2 days later. Rinse and repeat.


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LMAO… Certification is even worse. If you have PMI after your title, I’m not even gonna bother.


To me, those organizations are money making schemes. They've convinced employers someone would be a better employee if they have that certification. Then they charge for the training, exam/certification of that person and that person has to do so many hours each year of "approved education" in order to maintain their status to renew their certification or risk having it expire and start the process over again.

What a grand scheme to money making.


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some moron decided that everyone that works in our building must have a 4 year degree.
HR? All the janitorial / maintenance folks are graduates of Harvard Business School?



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Since the receptionist was laid off and not fired, they can call her back to work and get rid of the stupid new rule. Hopefully, she gets a raise.
 
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And yet one more demonstration that a four-year degree (or more) does not keep people from making stunningly stupid decisions.


New guy moves in across from me, retired PHD economics professor. A few months later chatting at the mailbox he says
“retirement is more expensive than I thought it would be”


Lick the lollipop of mediocrity once and you suck forever.
 
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Twice I had people attempting to get me into a corporate position years ago with one of the “Big Three”. Reason I was given on these instances was that the position required a two year college degree. No if’s and’ or but’s, no degree, no chance.

Reason for the requirement was that completion of a two year degree regardless of the course of study showed that the candidate would take a challenge and complete it.

Guess working in dealerships and being in various positions for ten to fifteen years (at that time) didn’t prove anything but a degree in Botany would show corporate “something”.


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