If you get off the roads Florida will grow on you.

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
If you get off the roads Florida will grow on you.

Kinda like mold?

I vacation in Florida every other year for the past 12 year or so. The only thing that has really stood out to me is they run left turn red lights all the time. Left turn traffic light changes to red, where I come from, 1 vehicle might go through. Florida, its more like 3-4 vehicles, sometimes more.

I would also agree that in general, BMW drivers are assholes.

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Originally posted by trapper189:

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Originally posted by Pale Horse:

Yup. Anyone who thinks Florida is wild must not have spent much time in ATL.

Florida is a big state, while Atlanta is a big city. You can’t really compare the two. No where along I-75 in Florida is like driving in Atlanta. However, I’m going to guess you don’t drive I-4 near and in Orlando much. I-4 and Orlando will give Atlanta a run for the money.

Only about once a month or so, oh and the three months I lived in Orlando late last year

Arguing over this is a bit silly as every place has its fair share of shitty drivers and for some reason people either want to act like their city has the best drivers or the fastest drivers or whatever. For what it’s worth I’d wager I’ve got as much experience driving in major cities across this country as anyone short of a long haul truck driver. Atlanta, Boston, NYC and Houston stick out as the most constantly aggressive cities to drive in. Part of the issue in ATL is, as mentioned above, the DOT royally screwed up the roads which creates many of the problems and likely causes drivers to be more aggressive as they have to make last second multiple lane changes in many cases by design. Its not as though ATL drivers are somehow better or worse, just that the traffic conditions and design of the roads lead then to drive differently.

I-4 around Orlando is busy, but IME simply not the same as the aggressive driving I’ve seen elsewhere.

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Guess I'll poke the bear...

I own a Subaru Outback, Ford Ranger pick up, and a BMW 3 series.

Does this mean I am a lesbian (I'm a male married to a woman), a redneck (I only get a red neck if I get a sunburn), and an asshole (I'm only an asshole to someone if they abuse an animal/woman/disabled person).

Stereotypes suck!

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Originally posted by h2oys:
Guess I'll poke the bear...

I own a Subaru Outback, Ford Ranger pick up, and a BMW 3 series.

Does this mean I am a lesbian (I'm a male married to a woman), a redneck (I only get a red neck if I get a sunburn), and an asshole (I'm only an asshole to someone if they abuse an animal/woman/disabled person).

Stereotypes suck!

Well, it depends on what you're driving that day...

Orlando is pretty bad but how many of you have driven in El Paso?

Probably 80% of the people here don't have insurance. Not sure why the vehicle inspection happens here as 50% of the vehicles wouldn't pass due to cracked windshields, bumper covers flopping in the wind, bald tires and such. Plenty of cars with Mexican license plates so you know they don't have insurance, they'll just go back over to Mexico and you'll have no recourse. People here drive shitty cars so they don't care about their cars. Lots of hit and runs here. Then you have people from New Mexico who are even shittier drivers.

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Originally posted by HRK:

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Originally posted by h2oys:
Guess I'll poke the bear...

I own a Subaru Outback, Ford Ranger pick up, and a BMW 3 series.

Does this mean I am a lesbian (I'm a male married to a woman), a redneck (I only get a red neck if I get a sunburn), and an asshole (I'm only an asshole to someone if they abuse an animal/woman/disabled person).

Stereotypes suck!

Well, it depends on what you're driving that day...

Well said HRK - well said.

Chicago gives Atlanta a run for its money for shitty drivers. Throw in the added "benefit" of tolls every few miles. Last time I went through the city it cost me 22 bucks in tolls. They charged me to exit to a mall and damned if they didn't charge me coming back as well. That was an extra five bucks on top of an expensive lunch. Next time its red hots at the airport for me.

I learned to drive in NYC/suburbs. I drive a BMW. I drive aggressively, but safely and use my turn signals. I will tell you, Ohio drivers are some of the worst. I get tailgated and cut off daily.

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Originally posted by arfmel:

A daily occurrence in San Antonio, too.

It is the way they merge and enter freeways that scares the shit out of me in San Antonio.

Do they get up to highway speed as they merge? No they do not.

They slow down, or even come to a stop on the entrance ramp, waiting for a long open stretch to come along and then they bring it up to speed in the driving lanes. Or, if they run out of entrance ramp they merge at whatever slow speed they happen to be going, say . . . 35 or 40 miles an hour.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Knoxville is the same. I nearly rear ended a car that was stopped at the end of an entrance ramp. He was not visible until the end. I squeaked by with my small car as there was no way I could stop in time.

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Originally posted by jhe888:

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Originally posted by arfmel:

A daily occurrence in San Antonio, too.

It is the way they merge and enter freeways that scares the shit out of me in San Antonio.

Do they get up to highway speed as they merge? No they do not.

They slow down, or even come to a stop on the entrance ramp, waiting for a long open stretch to come along and then they bring it up to speed in the driving lanes. Or, if they run out of entrance ramp they merge at whatever slow speed they happen to be going, say . . . 35 or 40 miles an hour.

I was the # 2 car, on ramp to an interstate. Traffic on the the highway was moderate, so the merge should have been easy.

I was expecting the # 1 car to accelerate and join the highway, so I glanced back over my left shoulder to verify that there was a good opening. There was, I started to accelerate, then looked forward and saw that the # 1 car was treating the yield sign as if it were a stop sign.

I braked hard and managed to stop, just tapping the rear bumper of the # 1 car very lightly. Got out of my car to check with the driver of the stopped car. It was a woman, wearing a low-cut blouse. She had a very ample chestal area, in which the cigarette that had previously been in her mouth was now residing. She refused my offer of assistance.

“ Do they get up to highway speed as they merge? No they do not.

They slow down, or even come to a stop on the entrance ramp, waiting for a long open stretch to come along and then they bring it up to speed in the driving lanes. Or, if they run out of entrance ramp they merge at whatever slow speed they happen to be going, say . . . 35 or 40 miles an hour.”

Yes you’re absolutely right. Lots of people who don’t have any clue how to merge. Jackasses.

Hazards everywhere. Never had the merge issue in rural Wisconsin. No interstate close by. Had the slow go farmer checking out the height of his neighbor's corn. Always around a blind corner. They drove down the middle of the road since there was limited traffic.

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Originally posted by Fredward:
Chicago gives Atlanta a run for its money for shitty drivers. Throw in the added "benefit" of tolls every few miles. Last time I went through the city it cost me 22 bucks in tolls. They charged me to exit to a mall and damned if they didn't charge me coming back as well. That was an extra five bucks on top of an expensive lunch. Next time its red hots at the airport for me.

To be clear, there are no tolls in Chicago except for the toll booths on the Chicago Skyway. The ones you went through are all in the suburban areas of Chicago.

If the speed of light is faster than the speed of sound, then why did I hear the horn of the BMW driver behind me before seeing the light turn green?

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Originally posted by gpbst3:

If the speed of light is faster than the speed of sound, then why did I hear the horn of the BMW driver behind me before seeing the light turn green?

It was not the BMW's horn.

It was the DeLorean that will arrive at that intersection next Tuesday.

Here in Colorado the driving theory for the front range is as follows.

1. Denver drivers are smart and aggressive.

2. Colorado Springs drivers are stupid and aggressive.

3. Pueblo drivers are just stupid.

I have millions of miles under my belt, driving this land from sea to shining sea.

Which state has the best drivers around trucks?

CALIFORNIA!

I know everybody likes to bash CA, but their drivers just get it done. Probably just a lot of experience with heavy traffic.

I won’t really call out any state for worst. Rural states, ironically, are some of the worst around trucks. People drive like it’s THEIR road in rural areas, and don’t really yield well. Also, this isn’t about the drivers per se, but I’m not a fan of Texas’ frontage road / merger stub ramp. It creates a lot of opportunity for conflict with existing traffic.

ATL sucks.