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They like bolt action hunting rifles, pump shotguns, and over-unders/side-by-sides, and don't understand why someone would want/need an AR15, or why any sane gun manufacturer would use plastic or aluminum. Some also tolerate handguns, though often limited to older classic designs like revolvers or 1911s, and mostly just for target shooting.

This reminds me of gun scribbler Jim Zumbo circa 2007. But Fudd is more familiar and recognizable than Zumbo.

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Don't see how that makes him a "Fudd". I'd argue just the opposite.

To me he qualified as a Fudd from just being an old fart that thinks his opinion is the end all be all of the firearms world.

I'd be respectful and respective to someone who wanted to have an intelligent discussion about it. Maybe there is a technique in building a grip on a Glock that I haven't tried. Maybe the one of the multiple backstops that comes with the Gen 5 might make a difference. But to tell me I don't know how to shoot is just insulting.

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Pretty much how I handle the help anywhere.

I could let pass the guy's statement that I just don't know how to shoot...my problem is the OP specifically said he was not looking for a Glock and the counter person then proceeded to show him what? A Glock. Not getting into the pro and con of different brands or types but when you tell someone you are not interested in a certain item and the first thing they do is show you that specific item and try to sell it to you.... well... it is time to walk.

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^^^I've seen double posts before but not 7 hours apart.

Blume is double posting at dial-up speeds.

I swear I just saw the double post and when I delete one it looked like both disappeared and so I back tracked and copied the previous one and reposted... then saw the single one and now deleted the double double post....

I still say the issue was not pro or con Glock just a stupid sales person that does not listen.

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Blume is double posting at dial-up speeds.

From the Urban Dictionary,

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Fudd

Slang term for a "casual" gun owner; eg; a person who typically only owns guns for hunting or shotgun sports and does not truly believe in the true premise of the second amendment. These people also generally treat owners/users of so called "non sporting" firearms like handguns or semiautomatic rifles with unwarranted scorn or contempt.

My definition of Fudd is a little different . Nothing to do with politics or the 2A. Example :
I was at an outdoor range right before Deer season . Bad idea I know . Anyway , I see this guy walking through the gate . He's carrying a rifle , a box of cartridges , and a paper plate . That's it. No , hearing protection , no staplegun or any means of attaching the plate to the target backer board . He stands there with a dazed look , trying to figure out what to do next . Apparently he's never been to a real shooting range . I figured I better help the old boy out before something bad happens . I keep a handful of packs of ear plugs in my range bag . I give him a pack , loan him my stapler and tell him to wait until the range is " cold " before walking down to attach his paper plate . After he finally gets ready and the range goes hot , he fires four rounds , gives me a wave and leaves .
To me , this was a " Fudd " ..

A fudd is just about any range officer that will call you out for shouldering a pistol brace.

Silly me. I work part time in a gun shop and actually listen to the customer.

Customer insists on a pistol with a manual safety, that’s what I’m showing them. Without a safety, same thing. Wants a revolver, I’m not going to show them a pistol or the other way around.

Brand and model specific, at least around here most of those have researched and tried it out either through our range, a product show or a friend’s gun. I might make a suggestion such as “Have you seen a …..?” but it all depends on the customer and certainly if they say “Anything but a (whatever)” I’m sure as hell not going to show them one of those.

In the case of the OP not liking the grip angle of the Glock, who am I to argue with him? That’s a problem with no solution. Now if they make a remark for example about a Sig P365 or a P320 I might suggest they look into an aftermarket grip module but again if the customer objects, end of that discussion. Even if it is the fault of the shooter it’s not my place to tell him it’s not the gun it’s you.

WHY on earth drive to the store, then walk out and drive home because the salesman liked glocks and was pushing a glock. Perhaps just man up and ask the guy to show you the gun you are interested in.

Sure you can learn a lot on the internet, but someone that works at a busy gun store sees the ones that fail and have to be sent back under warranty and the ones that won't. No amount of internet sluething will tell you how they feel and point in your hand either,

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:
WHY on earth drive to the store, then walk out and drive home because the salesman liked glocks and was pushing a glock. Perhaps just man up and ask the guy to show you the gun you are interested in.

Sure you can learn a lot on the internet, but someone that works at a busy gun store sees the ones that fail and have to be sent back under warranty and the ones that won't. No amount of internet sluething will tell you how they feel and point in your hand either,

I was always taught to listen to the customer and from that determine their wants, needs and expectations from their potential purchase. This method worked for me for more than fifty years until retirement in auto and motorcycle dealership parts sales and still does in gun shops.

I perceive a salesperson that continues to try and sell me an item that I have expressed a hard objection to as someone that is not looking out for my best interests. Why should I treat a customer any different that I want to be treated?