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Originally posted by lkdr1989:
This is my favorite essay on gun control people:
Raging Against Self Defense: A psychiatrist Examines The Anti-Gun Mentality

http://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/ra...ainstselfdefense.htm

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Originally posted by joatmonv:
I talked to her about drunk driving and how many people are killed per year due to it.
She told me that that doesn't affect her. I told her that it will sooner or later and you'll lose someone you know to it eventually. Cold fact but it's true.
She knows about the whole cell phone thing and only has 2 years driving experience under her belt. I asked her to pay attention next time she drives to work and to look at how many people she sees texting or on their cell phone as they're driving.

Very good information, thank you.
I always try to keep a level head when talking to anyone about guns. Same holds true when I discuss anything really.
Emotions tend to cloud judgment and generally get in the way of talking about things constructively. Doesn't matter if you're talking about guns or talking about your favorite football team.

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Originally posted by grumpy1:
Great story about your daughter. Glad you have introduced her to shooting, had the conversation with her, and let her go. Hopefully she learned something yesterday about what was really going on around her that may help her better appreciate her Second Amendment Rights.

I agree w/ grumpy and am glad you didn't 'put your foot down' and forbid her from going. Actions like that more than likely end up driving a parent and child apart. As you wrote, she's 18, so she's old enough to buy a rifle by herself, old enough to vote, and old enough to decide to attend a protest rally.

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Originally posted by iron chef:

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Originally posted by grumpy1:
Great story about your daughter. Glad you have introduced her to shooting, had the conversation with her, and let her go. Hopefully she learned something yesterday about what was really going on around her that may help her better appreciate her Second Amendment Rights.

I agree w/ grumpy and am glad you didn't 'put your foot down' and forbid her from going. Actions like that more than likely end up driving a parent and child apart. As you wrote, she's 18, so she's old enough to buy a rifle by herself, old enough to vote, and old enough to decide to attend a protest rally.

Old enough to get a job, old enough to pay rent, old enough to be self sufficient...

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:

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Originally posted by iron chef:

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Originally posted by grumpy1:
Great story about your daughter. Glad you have introduced her to shooting, had the conversation with her, and let her go. Hopefully she learned something yesterday about what was really going on around her that may help her better appreciate her Second Amendment Rights.

I agree w/ grumpy and am glad you didn't 'put your foot down' and forbid her from going. Actions like that more than likely end up driving a parent and child apart. As you wrote, she's 18, so she's old enough to buy a rifle by herself, old enough to vote, and old enough to decide to attend a protest rally.

Old enough to get a job, old enough to pay rent, old enough to be self sufficient...

She has a job, she pays me a little a month but helps out around the house with chores and she's leaving this Summer.
After having custody of her the last 4 years, June is gonna hurt.
Back to Grumpy's original post.

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Originally posted by dwd1985:
I love how people keep talking about additional gun control, because it shows me how stupid these people really are. I especially love the people who say they want to ban all semi autos. It gives me a chance to use the "Come and get them" response, which triggers people more than any other expression I could possibly muster.

David, it is a good trigger for sure.
I like to get them to talk about why they want all semi automatic weapons banned. You'd be surprised by some of the answers.
"All they're made for is killing"
My answer, "I kill paper and steel with mine".
"Kids are dying everyday".
My answer, "Lots of people are dying everyday, more from drunk driving. Do you not care about them?"
I could go on but you get my point. This actually riles them up more than the "come and get them" approach.

Ah, this is about being morally superior.

Suggest some time applying that do-gooder attitude by living in a rich-and-vibrant community like East Cleveland. An appreciation for the non-hobby, social uses of firearms will soon follow.

I'd suggest a visit to South Africa to appreciate the impending genocide of an under-armed minority, but that'd be cruel.

It's called "Take Advantage of Any Tragedy to Further The Agenda" the total removal of firearms from the hands of the common citizen. Once done allows either foreign or domestic forces to take total control. Long Live The King or Czar which ever is the case. We have plenty of laws on the books now that would solve 90% of the crime and violence but they are not enforce by design. Chris

So I guess that the military should stop issuing any guns to any member under the age of 21.

Yeah, that will work. NOOOOOOOOOOT!

Can we hear the screams of outrage when some 20 year old wants to be a cop, but is denied due to age?

Not to change the topic, but we see/hear this crap all the time from a bunch of uneducated "children" who are the captives of the so-called education establishment.

Anyone else remember the survey some time ago in which people were asked who the USA fought in WW2? Shocking number of respondents said we fought against FRANCE!

Some wise person has said that those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Welcome to the new day.