I’ll keep quiet with the cursing.
Never bought a set but have had 2 vehicles with them and they both were complete crap.
Wife had a 2003 Mustang with some sort of all season Potenzas when we met. Decent tire when it was dry and warm but a touch of rain and if it was cold and even thought of a snow the rear tires would start to spin before you even put the thing in gear.
Bought a super low mileage 2015 Suburban in 2020 fella traded it in for a 2020 and did not like the wheels on the new one so he had the dealer swap the brand new 2020 wheels to the 2015. So they were brand new factory take offs with zero miles Bridgestone Duelers. Everyone on the forums complained how horrible of a tire they were and were lucky to get 2 years out of them. We’ve had it for 2 years and put 22k miles on them. Wife has been complaining she felt the backend was sliding out from under her on curves now that it has gotten cold. Tires look to have plenty of life left. Supposed to get a bunch of snow and I had not been to Sams in a bit so I headed out as the snow started. Had a little bit of snow but nothing major I’ve plowed my Mustangs in far worse snow than this.
Holy crap!!!! The rears were spinning like mad even in Auto 4wd and if you thought about turning the backend would get sideways quicker than you can blink. These tires are 2 years old and have less than 25k miles and are flat out dangerous.

I had to get the kids from school so I took my Tundra with 1.5 year old Michelins and plowed through this snow like nothing!

So guess what the Suburban is getting tomorrow??
Michelin Defender LTXs!

Your subject line immediately reminded me of this old Bridgestone commercial.

I had a set of Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS on my Mercedes C300 Sport & they were fantastic in all weather conditions.
Comparable to the Michelin Plot Sport AS3+ we have on our Flex & that my coworker has on her twin Mercedes C300

Let me guess...made in China now?

Probably made out of recycled condoms...

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Let me guess...made in China now?

Probably made out of recycled condoms...

Mexico, in the case of the RE980AS above.

The Pilot Sport AS4 is mixed for the sizes needed for my former Mercedes. US for the fronts, Mexico for the rears.

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Originally posted by P250UA5:
I had a set of Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS on my Mercedes C300 Sport & they were fantastic in all weather conditions.
Comparable to the Michelin Plot Sport AS3+ we have on our Flex & that my coworker has on her twin Mercedes C300

How many miles do you get out of them? I thought these tires were pretty good until recently. I have a little over 20k miles on them and they should have not changed how they perform in anywhere near that period of time.

I have been out blasting in the Tundra tonight with ease. Looking forward to get these Michelins on the Suburban tomorrow.
Not excited at the cost but not a chance in the world the wife and kids are rolling on these tires anymore.

I had duelers on my 4Runner and they lasted until 46k but were horrible.

I hated the Bridgestone Duelers that came on my 4Runner. I had cords showing at 45k and the wear bars were howling like a banshee. Rode for shit and if you spit under them, they’d spin. No wet traction whatsoever. Same with whatever Bridgestones came on my Camry back in 2006. Garbage.

Michelin is my main choice on cars and I just had a set of defenders (X-tour made specifically for Costco) put onto the Camry today. I put Falken Wildpeak A/T’s on the 4Runner a month or so ago and they are a helluva lot better than the Bridgestones. I was on some ice yesterday that made me pucker a bit but the wildpeaks did what they were designed to do. In the 12” of snow I got, they performed exceptionally. I’m not 100% sold on the tire yet because I haven’t had a chance to get them muddy off-road, but if they can handle what I throw at them, I can see it becoming a go to for the 4Runner

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Originally posted by P250UA5:
I had a set of Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS on my Mercedes C300 Sport & they were fantastic in all weather conditions.
Comparable to the Michelin Plot Sport AS3+ we have on our Flex & that my coworker has on her twin Mercedes C300

How many miles do you get out of them? I thought these tires were pretty good until recently. I have a little over 20k miles on them and they should have not changed how they perform in anywhere near that period of time.

I have been out blasting in the Tundra tonight with ease. Looking forward to get these Michelins on the Suburban tomorrow.
Not excited at the cost but not a chance in the world the wife and kids are rolling on these tires anymore.

Staggered setup on the Merc, so could only rotate L<>R & got about 36k out of them.
The run flat Continental that were on it from the dealer only lasted 16k
The Potenza was a huge improvement over the runflats.

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I hated the Bridgestone Duelers that came on my 4Runner. I had cords showing at 45k and the west bars were howling like a banshee. Rode for shit and if you spit under them, they’d spin. No wet traction whatsoever. Same with whatever Bridgestones came on my Camry back in 2006. Garbage.

Michelin is my main choice on cars and I just had a set of defenders (X-tour made specifically for Costco) put onto the Camry today. I put Falken Wildpeak A/T’s on the 4Runner a month or so ago and they are a helluva lot better than the Bridgestones. I was on some ice yesterday that made me pucker a bit but the wildpeaks did what they were designed to do. In the 12” of snow I got, they performed exceptionally. I’m not 100% sold on the tire yet because I haven’t had a chance to get them muddy off-road, but if they can handle what I throw at them, I can see it becoming a go to for the 4Runner

I had the Wildpeaks on my Expedition EL and they did great in the mud. They self cleaned very very well.
Don’t want anything that aggressive for the Suburban it’s just the family mover.

My 4Runner also came with Duelers. They were complete crap. I had to replace them at around 30k/2 years of pretty easy driving. Even when new, I wasn't happy with the wet traction. I always had good experiences with Bridgestone in the past, but it had been about 8 years since I had last tried them.

I have poor traction in the 2wd Tacoma. Damp roads. I blamed the truck. Maybe it is the Bridgestone tires I put on it. Never drive it in the winter

IME, OEM tires are low-end garbage selected by manufacturer for price point. I typically replace them the first month, and I should've done the same with the Hankook's that came on my current truck. They hit 4/32 in 30,000 miles but with none of the soft tire benefits like dry traction. Michelin's made a world of difference dry, wet, noise, handling, etc.

The only exception is my Dad's last 2 leases have come with Michelin's. Both were Chevy Equinoxes, and he says the tires are everything you'd expect from a Michelin.

mostly this^^^^

Most of the better names make good high end tires. Many of the same brands will make crap for OEM if that's what the manufacturer requests. I've had quite a few OEM tires not make 25K.

No experience with Bridgestone truck tires, but I've had fairly so-so results with their high performance summer tires. Then again I've had so-so performance with pretty much all brands when it comes to longevity, particularly with the rears as 911s usually eat them up with aplomb, depending upon how devilish my driving habits are, or the number of track days I do. Getting 15,000 miles is usually a pipe dream with any set of rears, regardless of make. But how soon the performance starts going away...Michelins tend to last better than Bridgestones, Continentals, Pirellis and particularly the last Dunlops I chose on a whim.

We put a set of Pilot Sport all-seasons on my wife's Mazda 6 and they've performed as anyone would expect out of a product from Michelin, but they are one hell of a NOISY set of tires. The Pirelli Zero Neros that the car originally came with (and the set that replaced the OEM tires at 55,000 miles) were quite competent rubber and very quiet running. The only reason we didn't go with them again was because Pirelli discontinued making the tire size that fit her Mazda.

Classic "Just turn up the stereo" scenario...

What a change in this vehicle with these new tires! I had to really try to get the backend to break loose in the snow.
Now that the snow is gone the ride of the truck is substantially better. Rides smoother and a much more comfortable less hating ride.
It’s raining like a mother today so I’ll see how it does on all the water slick and pooling surfaces.

I got some cross climate 2s for my Volvo.
Haven't had any snow/sludge to try them out in yet.

I used Bridgestone Potenza on my vw Jetta in northern Chicago and se WIsconsin for years without issues. The blizzards I drove left a crapload of 4x4s in the ditch. Never got stuck…

Michelin is my go to

I hope their MC tires are ok because I'm putting a set of T32 https://www.bridgestonemotorcy...ax-sport-touring-t32 on my Honda tomorrow. I just came in from taking the rear tire off and changing brake fluid. I haven't had Bridgestones on a motorcycle in quite a while and never had them on a truck or car.