The new Sierra Denali commercial features hands free driving. It has idiots playing Patty-cake to a Queen song while the truck drives itself.

Why on Gods green earth do we need hands free driving?

How did they ever get this past the lawyers?

You are driving…so drive!

I saw that and both the wife and I went:



There is NO WAY IN HELL I’m letting a car drive itself around here with all the shitty and insane drivers we have in PA.

Nope!

The important part nobody seems to understand about automation and driver aids, is you still have to pay attention, even if you don't need to be physically touching the controls. If people understood that part, I wouldn't be opposed to that technology, but most people won't actually recognize the need to pay attention.

Even a pilot in a multi million dollar jet has redundant auto-pilot systems but still has to pay attention to make sure the automation is doing what it's supposed to be doing.

Why would anybody think relatively inexpensive and relatively rudimentary land vehicle based driver aids would be fully autonomous to the point of enabling goofing around rather than paying attention?

Seriously, the entire car or truck cost less than the avionics package in the jet, but somehow the automobile's system requires less attention?

Professional idiot.

Closed course.

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Why on Gods green earth do we need hands free driving?

So you can text?

I have thankfully not seen the commercial. Playing patty cake with Queen songs. I am not in the target group, so maybe I will never see the commmercial.

If it's that good- Send the car to pickup my food at the drive through so I don't have to go.

I saw the commercial as well and thought the same thing.

My 2021 Pilot has lane assist. I used it on my trip to/from OK a few months ago and it freaked me out. When using cruise and lane assist, it will steer for you (basically keep you in the lane in between the lines.) If you take your hands off the wheel it will make the steering wheel shake and it scared the crap out of me. No thank you.

Ever have your PC or laptop lock up and have to be rebooted?

Self-driving car? No thank you.

Yep, watching that commercial and thinking "seriously?" Idiots!
Along the same lines as the oversized touch-screens being installed right in front of the driver. Yikes.

I enjoy driving - that's DRIVING. Not riding. My 2021 Toyota Highlander Platinum will just about drive itself also. I use the automatic headlights/hi-beams, automatic wipers and adaptive cruise control but I keep my hands on the wheel.

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Originally posted by mcrimm:
I enjoy driving - that's DRIVING. Not riding.

Me too so I'm surprised you didn't mention your S2000. Both of us cherish our iconic sportscars which of late have appreciated significantly in value because enthusiasts are realizing that cars like the S2000, which gives a pure driving experience without all the crap gizmos that defeat that, are no longer being made.

There's nothing like feeling connected to the road and shifting a slick manual transmission with a stick shift while the engine howls under your throttle control.

I'm of the opinion that if we got rid of all the driver aids, the roads would be safer because people would have to focus more on driving rather than everything else going on. Bring back the stick shift and get rid of cruise control....that'll wake people up! I have a Mazda 3 with a 6-speed, and it's an underpowered little golf cart of a car, but it's still fun to drive because you're actually DRIVING it, not administering it. And you can't really eat or text while you're driving it around town, either.

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Originally posted by bald1:

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Originally posted by mcrimm:
I enjoy driving - that's DRIVING. Not riding.

Me too so I'm surprised you didn't mention your S2000. Both of us cherish our iconic sportscars which of late have appreciated significantly in value because enthusiasts are realizing that cars like the S2000, which gives a pure driving experience without all the crap gizmos that defeat that, are no longer being made.

There's nothing like feeling connected to the road and shifting a slick manual transmission with a stick shift while the engine howls under your throttle control.

The new 86 is the coupe AP2 I always wanted. I had an AP2 and I’m tall so not the best fit. The new 86 is the cabin I need to get the AP2 feeling back!

Yeah not feeling ADAS at all. No Hal9000 will be in my vehicles. I’ve gone out of my way with my last purchase (2019 Ridgeline RTL AWD) to not have any of that shit in my truck, and I love it that way.

Idiocracy is upon us.

Hands free driving scares me. I have actually nodded off while on a motorcycle. In a car or truck, in a comfy cabin with music playing I would be napping in short order.

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Originally posted by bald1:

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Originally posted by mcrimm:
I enjoy driving - that's DRIVING. Not riding.

Me too so I'm surprised you didn't mention your S2000. Both of us cherish our iconic sportscars which of late have appreciated significantly in value because enthusiasts are realizing that cars like the S2000, which gives a pure driving experience without all the crap gizmos that defeat that, are no longer being made.

There's nothing like feeling connected to the road and shifting a slick manual transmission with a stick shift while the engine howls under your throttle control.

Yea know - Out of sight - Out of mind. I forgot?????



Our 'S' is quietly tucked under the tongue of our daughter and SIL's monster camper. We are in the process of relocating to Tucson where we can drive it all year.

Thanks for the wakeup.
Mike

We've got these Waymo self driving cars all over the area.

My wife has it on her 2022 CRV. She didn't realize it was active the first time she drove it and complained about the steering. The lane assist tries to keep the vehicle in the center of the lane, but that is not where she likes to drive, so it was a constant battle. To me it is a solution in search of a problem and it hasn't been active since.

I was driving to Bakersfield this week on I-5. Doing 80-85 mph. Got stuck behind a Tesla doing 80. No biggee. They'll move over soon.

They didn't.

I began to tailgate a bit to give them a clue.

Finally had to pass on the right. Looked over and the gal was hands free and texting. Her Tesla was driving while she had her head up her rectum. The driver didn't have a clue to move over and let traffic pass them.

And yes, I honked my horn and yelled (at myself). I looked in my rear mirror and saw that she eventually got over.

I'm convinced most people are capable of operating a car safely, but fewer and fewer are capable of actually driving (interacting with other drivers, traffic, volume of traffic, speed difference among lanes, safely stacking up behind big rigs, when to safely pass big rigs, etc). People simply can't drive.

Not trusting my life to some silicon chips.

#6speedforlife