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After 7 years, I finally upgraded to a new PC. All of a sudden, I’m having to relearn how to interact with Windows in a manner I haven’t had to deal with since before WinXP days.

Why did they suddenly decide the user shouldn’t be able to move the taskbar?! I used to put it vertical on a secondary monitor. Now I’ve got to mirror the taskbar across each monitor in order to access it while in full screen on my main monitor. That’s the first thing that sucks.

Next, where’s the Quickbar?! I’m having to pin everything I use regularly to the Start menu, which means having to click to open that before clicking to open what I need. Even then, I’ve discovered that a couple games/programs won’t pin to the Start menu, so I’ve got to use the Search function for it. Argh!

I’ve never been one to keep icons on the desktop, but I’m starting to think I’m going to have to start.



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So, its' Microsoft Mac, again?




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I’ve never been one to keep icons on the desktop, but I’m starting to think I’m going to have to start.


To help keep the desktop from getting too messy, I keep a simple folder on the desktop. All the "stuff" that might normally end up on the desktop goes in there instead.

It's two more clicks to get to the things I want, but it keeps things somewhat more tidy.




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There is a long list of ‘why did they do that’ across OS and apps you’ve yet to discover. A joyful journey it will be. It will exemplify the failings of the modern school system, the erosion of average competency of developers these days, and/or the appalling implications of dei.




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To help keep the desktop from getting too messy, I keep a simple folder on the desktop. All the "stuff" that might normally end up on the desktop goes in there instead.

That's an excellent workaround. Thanks for the suggestion!

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There is a long list of ‘why did they do that’ across OS and apps you’ve yet to discover. A joyful journey it will be. It will exemplify the failings of the modern school system, the erosion of average competency of developers these days, and/or the appalling implications of dei.

Oh joy.



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Next, where’s the Quickbar?! I’m having to pin everything I use regularly to the Start menu, which means having to click to open that before clicking to open what I need. Even then, I’ve discovered that a couple games/programs won’t pin to the Start menu, so I’ve got to use the Search function for it. Argh!

Since Win7, I just 'Right Click' on the program in the Start Menu and --> 'Pin to Taskbar'. You can't move the 'Quick Launch' toolbar (technically it doesn't exist any more), but this function basically accomplishes the same thing, w/ everything you pin to the Taskbar in the default location, right next to the Start Button. You can Add/Remove/Rearrange at will.


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Not "Kinda". More like, "Totally".
 
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Try Openshell for windows 11 to make the start menu like win7/win10
Also explorerPatcher will give most of the win7/win10 feel back ---it lets the taskbar work like before

Links below:

https://github.com/valinet/Exp...7384790/ep_setup.exe

https://openshellmenu.com/
 
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My wife's laptop has Win11 on it and I don't like it one bit. I'm keeping Win10 on mine until it will no longer run...


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Stupid things like renaming a file.
Win10: right click > rename file.
Win11: right click > more options > rename file.

Out of all the options on that menu they couldn’t have moved one of the worthless options to a sub menu?



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Stupid things like renaming a file.
Win10: right click > rename file.
Win11: right click > more options > rename file.

Out of all the options on that menu they couldn’t have moved one of the worthless options to a sub menu?


You could do that but what I always do is highlight the file and hit the F2 function key to rename the file. That's always been quicker for me. Also looking at the right click menu on my Windows 11 laptop shows actual buttons for Cut, Copy, Rename, Share and Delete in that menu.

Sure the Windows 11 interface is different but it's not that different. It didn't take me long at all to adjust to it for my uses.
 
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Stupid things like renaming a file.
Win10: right click > rename file.
Win11: right click > more options > rename file.

Out of all the options on that menu they couldn’t have moved one of the worthless options to a sub menu?


This was my only real complaint about Win 11. Here's how I got back to the old context menu.

1) Right click on cmd terminal icon and run as administrator
2) Paste the following command at the prompt and press enter
reg.exe add "HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32" /f /ve
3) Restart the file explorer. Wala! The W10 context menu is back.
 
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Stupid things like renaming a file.
Win10: right click > rename file.
Win11: right click > more options > rename file.


That threw me for a bit until I noticed that in Win11 if I right clicked on the file, the menu that came up had across the top (or bottom) a set of icons, one of which was rename.

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My rip will no longer multitask and my USB ports reassign at random.

A real pain with all these printers and cutters all screaming no port found at the same time.

Yes, the printers REQUIRE an assigned USB port.


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windows 11 is garbage and I'm moving to Linux. Mint or Ubuntu are what I recommend.


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windows 11 is garbage and I'm moving to Linux. Mint or Ubuntu are what I recommend.


God speed my friend. Let us know in a year or two which one works best for you Big Grin
 
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Originally posted by SpinZone:
Stupid things like renaming a file.
Win10: right click > rename file.
Win11: right click > more options > rename file.

Out of all the options on that menu they couldn’t have moved one of the worthless options to a sub menu?


You could do that but what I always do is highlight the file and hit the F2 function key to rename the file. That's always been quicker for me. Also looking at the right click menu on my Windows 11 laptop shows actual buttons for Cut, Copy, Rename, Share and Delete in that menu.

Sure the Windows 11 interface is different but it's not that different. It didn't take me long at all to adjust to it for my uses.


I don’t understand either of you. When I want to change a file’s name or folder’s name, you have to be looking at the name which is what triggered your thought to change it, right? So what I always do is move my cursor somewhere within the file name, click and hold until it indicates I can edit the name and I change the name. No menu or Fx key for me, just go to direct edit name mode.

I do find it interesting they made so many different ways to skin a cat.



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Next, where’s the Quickbar?! I’m having to pin everything I use regularly to the Start menu, which means having to click to open that before clicking to open what I need. Even then, I’ve discovered that a couple games/programs won’t pin to the Start menu, so I’ve got to use the Search function for it. Argh!

I’ve never been one to keep icons on the desktop, but I’m starting to think I’m going to have to start.


The Start Menu is your quick bar that you arrange to your liking instead of the full program menu that you scroll through.

You also have the option of pinning programs to the task bar. I use that as my quick bar for programs I use frequently like file explorer, my search engine, etc.

There’s a third option of pinning programs to a “dynamic” folder in the task bar right next to the calendar on the bottom right corner. It’s where the icons for the programs running in the background but you can also move program icons that you want to start from that menu. A particular program I use this for is the program that log in to the encrypted volume on my hard drive; I don’t want it in the start menu or task bar where anybody can see it. But I can quickly call it up by clicking on the mini icon in that menu. That menu stays hidden until you hover or click on the up arrow.

I never did like having icons on my desktop. I like to keep things there to a minimum. I delete program icons that get installed there or tell the installation program not to put one there.



"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946.
 
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windows 11 is garbage and I'm moving to Linux. Mint or Ubuntu are what I recommend.


God speed my friend. Let us know in a year or two which one works best for you Big Grin


I've been running ubuntu for a while now on a laptop, I'm starting to like it more than windows 10.


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I just posted today about potentially needing to "upgrade" to 11 and I am not at all happy about possibly needing to do so.

Stuff like this is just one of many reasons I am not looking forward to the possibility. Frown
 
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