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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
I bought a really nice car cover for my 1969 Camaro and the bastards went and changed the body style.
See how silly this is?

Well the same car cover worked on either of my 69 Camaros it fit the Z-28 just as well of the SS/RS.

The holsters that I have purchased for my modern 1911 pattern pistols also fit my great grandfather's WW I 1911.

What other part of my "antique" P229 won't fit on one purchased new today?

What part of a 1969 Camaro will fit on a 2017 Camaro w/o modification?

Nope, not really seeing it...

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Originally posted by jlb226:


Nope, not really seeing it...

Which is why this thread is silly. Products change. Get with the times or be happy being relegated to the out-of-production market.

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Originally posted by jlb226:
What other part of my "antique" P229 won't fit on one purchased new today?

Extractor, extractor spring, and firing pin stop to name three.

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:

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Originally posted by jlb226:


Nope, not really seeing it...

Which is why this thread is silly. Products change. Get with the times or be happy being relegated to the out-of-production market.

And the massive improvement that SIG has made to the P229 over the last 22 years...

A not quite picatinny rail on the dust cover.

You're right all of my old SIG pistols are obsoleted and ineffective for concealed carry because of that rail.

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Originally posted by jlb226:
You're right all of my old SIG pistols are obsoleted and ineffective for concealed carry because of that rail.

They certainly are, send them to me and I will dispose of them for you.

There have been a couple of comments about getting some low-light training and it isn't all that hard to find. As I was figuring out my own take on the 'always-armed' life style about 12 years ago the light was a mystery and training showed me the light, as it were.

My experience included, Oregon firearms Academy (now closed) so it doesn't matter, thunder Ranch where Smith has a superb purpose-built shoot house with a stairway, and is dingy to dark. Firearms Academy of Seattle has a low light house that can do the job and John Farnam makes you go outside in the scary night to figure it out.

My solution after being introduced to choices and fitting it into what I can do and want to do: I have a railed 320 which recently replaced a railed 226 with a mounted x300 in a Safepacker that stays at home, another x300 that travels with me in my possibles bag, unmounted with a 229 in a 'normal' holster, but the light is a thirty second mount and goes on when I go into a motel or whatever. And I carry a pocket Surefire all the time besides.

I'm not trying to talk anybody into anything, but this minimal effort to shine a little light into the darkness works for me and as Smith says, is comforting. Rails simplify my carry life.

Edited to add: I am not a Ninja

My nightstand 226 9mm has a rail. That's the only one that I own, with a rail I mean. It has its place.

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Originally posted by jljones:
Meh.

I have guns that have rails. I have guns that don't. If I have a gun with a rail on it, and I don't want to mount a light on it, I don't.

If I have a gun that doesn't have a rail, and I want to put a light on it, it is a bitch.

I fail to reeeeaaaaaaallllllllyyyyyyy see the big deal. I buy guns to use. If I chew a holster up, I buy a new holster. A holster isn't made to last 100 years. Buy a good holster (leather) and it will still last you a dozen years (or more) with a railed gun. Stuff breaks. None of it is meant to last forever.

Take a good home defense course from someone who really knows tactics, and how to read/use low light, and a WML becomes a must for concealed carry. You learn that lesson pretty quick. Night sights do nothing for ID'ing your target. I get lazy and don't always carry a gun with a light but I know better. There is no flashlight technique out there that will be as repeatable as turning on a WML.

YMMV.

Try Chicago again. Come back here and give a class in low light gun fighting. I'll bet you would fill it. I know I'll attend.

I'd love to do Chicago again. You keep me safe?