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A question for the bankers amongst us:

My wife gets a yearly rent check for some farm land. Not a huge amount but a nice chunk this time of year. Its too big to deposit electronically so she goes to the bank and deposits it in person, The tellers says "there will be an eight day hold before it appears in your account".

Eight days? Seriously? In this day of electronic clearing houses? So they get to hold on to it, earning interest? Sounds like a scam to me.
 
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I'd like to hear from someone with knowledge as well. I was given a large check in 2024. When I deposited it, I was told I could only have a small amount of it credited that day, and it would take several more days to credit the full amount. I think, however, this was only ~4 days, not eight.

This may be related to ACH transfers taking two business (weekends and holidays don't count) days to complete. Why should weekends and holidays matter if the transaction is purely electronic? If said transfer is from one bank account to another not of the same bank, add two days to that.





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ChatGPT has this answer.

Why do checks over a certain amount take eight days to clear after depositing

Banks sometimes place **extended holds** (such as 7–8 business days) on checks over a certain amount to protect both you and the bank from potential losses. Here’s why it happens:

### **1. Risk of Check Fraud**

Large checks carry higher risk. A check can:

* Bounce because the account it’s drawn on doesn’t have enough funds
* Be counterfeit
* Be from a closed or frozen account

If the bank gives you the money too quickly and the check later fails, the bank could lose thousands. Longer holds reduce that risk.

### **2. Clearing System Speed**

When you deposit a check, your bank doesn’t instantly receive the money. They must:

1. Send the check to the paying bank
2. Wait for confirmation that the funds are legitimate
3. Receive settlement of funds

This process can take several business days—especially for:

* Out-of-state or out-of-network banks
* Credit unions
* Large-dollar checks
* International checks

### **3. Federal Regulations (Reg CC)**

U.S. banking rules set **minimum** availability times, but banks are allowed to hold funds longer when:

* The check is over a certain dollar amount (often $5,525+)
* It’s a new account (usually less than 30 days old)
* There’s reason to suspect the check might not clear
* Your account has a history of overdrafts

So if you’re seeing an 8-day hold, it’s likely because the check meets one or more of these criteria.

### **4. Protecting You**

It may feel inconvenient, but extended holds prevent situations where someone spends money from a check that later turns out to be invalid—leaving the account holder owing thousands.

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I deposited a large check at my Credit Union last, asked about a hold, he said there wasn't one.

Maybe they have a way to verify funds ? He walked over and showed someone the check, but no hold up.
 
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I find it odd as well. In this day and age, you would think there is a way to instantly verify the funds, but it doesn't seem to work that way. Numerous times I have had my bank tell me there is nothing to do but wait for a check to clear, and they can't even give a firm answer on the timing. That includes cashiers checks, which IMO are worthless as a security measure. They don't clear any faster than a personal check and also can't be easily verified in my experience.
 
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It is slow because people accept that it's slow. It does at 8 days give everyone a chance to verify the check and payment is legitimate as both banks need to be sure.


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I am not writing many checks these days. But when I do, I noticed that it took forever for them to cycle through my account. I thought the checks were getting lost. One such check recipient told me: "We do most banking electronically, so we only go to the bank for a deposit once a month". So they held on to my check for nearly a month!
Just another reason to avoid writing checks!


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I can’t blame them, fraud is everywhere. Even with a snapshot of funds available, how would they know if other checks are written on the same account?

I just payed for a truck repair yesterday, $2500+, paid by check. Not really a deal paying, but local bank, local shop, some customer history.

When I deposit a check, I just expect it takes a while for the full amount to be available.
 
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I sold a double wide mobile home in Mesa ,Az to a fella from Indiana.
He got a bank issued check over nighted,
It was understood that the house papers would not be given until the check cleared the U S Bank
( Thinking it would take two or four days at the very most )

It took nine days ,
The buyer was about half livid.

He was renting a hotel room while awaiting the check to clear.





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Originally posted by Tn226:
So they get to hold on to it, earning interest?

They should credit interest starting immediately, even during the hold period. Now, interest rates are vanishingly small for most accounts at banks, but they should pay that interest from date of deposit.
 
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Originally posted by Tn226:
So they get to hold on to it, earning interest?

They should credit interest starting immediately, even during the hold period. Now, interest rates are vanishingly small for most accounts at banks, but they should pay that interest from date of deposit.

I have a Fidelity Cash Management account that I use and this is what they do. They put a hold on the check, but I earn interest from the day the check is deposited.


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Originally posted by 4MUL8R:
ChatGPT has this answer.
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### **3. Federal Regulations (Reg CC)**

U.S. banking rules set **minimum** availability times, but banks are allowed to hold funds longer when:

* The check is over a certain dollar amount (often $5,525+)
* It’s a new account (usually less than 30 days old)
* There’s reason to suspect the check might not clear
* Your account has a history of overdrafts
There are 6 exceptions and ChatGPT made an error on 1 and missed 2:
  • The check is over a certain dollar amount (often $5,525+ ). Large deposit is $6,725 and can be an aggregate on any single banking day (i.e. the OP's wife depositing more than one check and it'll be the combined total of checks).
  • Redeposited checks: A hold can be placed on checks that were previously returned unpaid and are being redeposited. However, this exception does not apply if the check was returned due to a missing endorsement or being postdated, and the issue has since been corrected.
  • Emergency conditions: In rare circumstances, such as a natural disaster or communications malfunction, a bank can extend a hold until conditions allow for normal check processing.



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    Talk to the bank manager.I frequently move large amounts of money from my brokerage account to my business account to pay taxes. No holds after a brief meeting with the bank.
     
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    My local bank had a limit of mobile deposits of $5K a day. Would drive me nuts my I had to deposit my rental unit checks and my wife’s 1099 job’s commission checks. On good months it would take 3 days to deposit all of them. I spoke to the bank, they said they could increase the limit to $8k. Not much of a help.

    I ended up moving most of my cash to Fidelity, now my limit is $500K per day. Unfortunately I have yet to hit that limit…

    The hold is still 5-10 days, but at least I’m earning more interest on it.
     
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    Thanks to this thread, the subsequent rabbit hole led me to buy some pens that can't be washed if the check is stolen. I usually only write one or two checks per month, and usually hand them to the recipient. But there are a few instances where I mail a substantial check.
     
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    pens that can't be washed if the check is stolen.
    Where to find these? Link?



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    Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
    Talk to the bank manager.I frequently move large amounts of money from my brokerage account to my business account to pay taxes. No holds after a brief meeting with the bank.


    I had the same discussion with the vice president of what is now Truist. When I explained how many clients I’ve brought to their mortgage department and that I was a client before he was even employed by the bank and never had a check bounce the problem disappeared…


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    Funny that computers have spend things up, but some things it's slowed way down.

    I was looking at credit card charges online the other day, things still listed as "pending." Stuff they shipped, arrived and I'm already using.
     
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    Originally posted by Tn226:
    A question for the bankers amongst us:

    My wife gets a yearly rent check for some farm land. Not a huge amount but a nice chunk this time of year. Its too big to deposit electronically so she goes to the bank and deposits it in person, The tellers says "there will be an eight day hold before it appears in your account".

    Eight days? Seriously? In this day of electronic clearing houses? So they get to hold on to it, earning interest? Sounds like a scam to me.


    I'm an accountant. I absolutely hate issuing checks. We push our vendors to accept ACH payments. It is quick, easy and relatively speaking more secure than paper checks.

    For a single annual payment, the payor probably doesn't consider it worthwhile to ask you if you want to receive an ACH payment. But have you considered contacting the payor and asking they would be willing to pay electronically?
     
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    The holds are BS. My wife got a substantial bonus one year when we were trying to buy a house. The bank put an 8 day hold on it, making it difficult to close on the house. We had more than double the check amount in our checking account at the time, and more than that in savings. She was working for a Fortune 500 financial investment company at the time, and the check was drawn on it’s corporate account at JP Morgan. When I explained all of that, along with my wife desiring to move all our accounts to their closest competition, the hold magically vanished.
     
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