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Delusions of Adequacy
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Meanwhile, if you allow your dogs to chase deer out of season, it's "harassing wildlife" and you'll get fined for it.

Ironic.




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Posts: 17944 | Location: Virginia | Registered: June 02, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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DSgrouse, I am on your side. That said, expecting Facebook responses to be anything but a cesspool is unrealistic. Uninstall, and do your blood pressure a big favor.

RE: people removing your signs and then hunting on your property. Words fail.

There are conscientious hunters, and there are other types...your trespassers fall into the second category.

Another approach might be to make sure there is nothing there for them to hunt...Not sure how much property you're talking about but maybe deer repellent?
 
Posts: 15026 | Location: North Carolina | Registered: October 15, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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We enjoy hunting and we don't use dogs. All properties here are posted. Very few non family members hunt our property.
 
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DSgrouse, I am on your side. That said, expecting Facebook responses to be anything but a cesspool is unrealistic. Uninstall, and do your blood pressure a big favor.

RE: people removing your signs and then hunting on your property. Words fail.

There are conscientious hunters, and there are other types...your trespassers fall into the second category.

Another approach might be to make sure there is nothing there for them to hunt...Not sure how much property you're talking about but maybe deer repellent?


We have notice three things not mentioned on the facebook page over the last 4 years.
1 once the sherriff and dgif are called, must call both. They will talk about who is responding over the radio. Many of these poachers [ that is what thet are even if they have a hunting lisc] have a scanner. They listen, hear the call, recall the dogs and skedaddle.

2 for those that do not have a scanner, well there is one fact about doggerz that tresspass all share. They are fucking lazy sons of bitches. They are bored very easy. So after you call, you make the post i did on every facebook regional groups. Poof dogs get recalled and are gone.

3 every time we do steps one and two, dogs are gone before dgif can get here. Usually 25 min or so. Yesterday dgif was down the road. It turns out it was not the hunt clubs dogs, but a group who turned their dogs loose on our end to run them from our end through the hunt club. The hunt club guys caught them called dgif.
 
Posts: 6633 | Location: Virginia | Registered: December 23, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I’ glad I live in Texas where we have strong private property rights, and the public has no legal access to our rural property for any reason. I’ve caught several trespassers over the years and escorted them off the property without any bullshit from any of them.
 
Posts: 26899 | Location: Jerkwater, Texas | Registered: January 30, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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DSgrose, you must be dealing with the same group of assholes I’m dealing with.

We had dogs running around outside the house most of the night. Seems that’s the way to get around the no hunting with dogs on Sunday is to leave them out Saturday night.

I’m tired of the dogs and the trash from some of these hunt clubs. I’ll bet I get 25 or 30 pounds of aluminum cans along the road in front of the property.




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Posts: 6486 | Location: Near the Beaverdam in VA | Registered: February 13, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I know laws are different all over but where I come from dogs running alone through the woods during deer season got shot.

I see no good reason in this day and age to hunt with dogs....tracking a shot deer sure but driving game across multiple properties....nope.

As much as I hate new laws, personal property rights need to be strengthened in this case.
 
Posts: 8301 | Location: Back in NE TX ....to stay | Registered: February 12, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I don't live in a rural area, and had no idea hunters or dogs are granted access to your property. That is insane. I probably would employ the wrong tactic in this situation and just shoot the dogs. If they approached me, my pet, my family, or my live stock and did not turn back with waving arms and yelling at it. I would shoot them dead. I have been attacked by dogs to many times and spent too much time in Emergency Rooms to ever let myself go through it again.

If the dogs aren't causing property damage and threatening you or your family, and the assertions that it is legal for hunting dogs to roam anyone's property at any time are true. Than that is just nuts and I would not want to live in a county that allowed it.

Regarding spent cases and shot up outbuildings, I don't understand how in anyway it can be legal for someone to fire a gun on your property or in the direction of your buildings.



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Posts: 20816 | Location: Loudoun County, Virginia | Registered: December 27, 2014Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I don't live in a rural area, and had no idea hunters or dogs are granted access to your property. That is insane. I probably would employ the wrong tactic in this situation and just shoot the dogs. If they approached me, my pet, my family, or my live stock and did not turn back with waving arms and yelling at it. I would shoot them dead. I have been attacked by dogs to many times and spent too much time in Emergency Rooms to ever let myself go through it again.

If the dogs aren't causing property damage and threatening you or your family, and the assertions that it is legal for hunting dogs to roam anyone's property at any time are true. Than that is just nuts and I would not want to live in a county that allowed it.

Regarding spent cases and shot up outbuildings, I don't understand how in anyway it can be legal for someone to fire a gun on your property or in the direction of your buildings.


IIRC it is legal state wide east of the blues.

The spent casings were one incident while my wife was gardening. The shooting of the coup was the last day of hunting season. My pup was a pup then 5 -6 months old. They took after her something fierce. I went and found the "owners" heard the shots. Later i found the new bullet holes in the coup.
 
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It turns out it was not the hunt clubs dogs, but a group who turned their dogs loose on our end to run them from our end through the hunt club. The hunt club guys caught them called dgif.


They ran their dogs through someone else's hunting lease? That's gutsy and chock full of stupid. I don't suppose the Hunt Club folks have posted again to back you up though?

I'm in the it's your property to do with as you see fit. We used to own some property in Michigan that was 7 miles from the main road and behind three locked gates. It was bordered on two sides by water, the third side was a dirt road and we still found bait piles a half mile into our property. No one accidentally walked into our property. The people doing this crap really are the lowest of the low.
 
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Here in Georgia you must obtain permission.
There is a dog hunting club literally up the street from me and I get the errant dog from time to time.
I just leash it up, toss it in the back of the truck and drive it back to the clubhouse.
Usually they're apologetic.
And they know of my stern warning about my chicken flock.





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It turns out it was not the hunt clubs dogs, but a group who turned their dogs loose on our end to run them from our end through the hunt club. The hunt club guys caught them called dgif.


They ran their dogs through someone else's hunting lease? That's gutsy and chock full of stupid. I don't suppose the Hunt Club folks have posted again to back you up though?

I'm in the it's your property to do with as you see fit. We used to own some property in Michigan that was 7 miles from the main road and behind three locked gates. It was bordered on two sides by water, the third side was a dirt road and we still found bait piles a half mile into our property. No one accidentally walked into our property. The people doing this crap really are the lowest of the low.


Privately yes, publicly in the thread? no. The club an i have exchanged numbers. so if dogs go off the property they will message me for help with some of the less forgiving landowners.

I have to laugh a bit. a couple of morons are arguing that me target shooting on my land ruined their hunt. They are arguing with a hanover county sheriffs captain....they have threatened to citizens arrest him or me on our property, then take us to court over ruining their hunt on their land.
 
Posts: 6633 | Location: Virginia | Registered: December 23, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Hell yeah, I'd let a 762x54R round out a couple times a day during hunting season, for sure.

Citizen's arrest? Bring that shit to me!
 
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Just found out that a guy is boating the dogs in and letting them off on various parts of Lake Anna to run the deer off property they’re not supposed to have access to. I did get a call back from a DGIF warden last night but it’s the same old shit. “Nothing I can do until the law changes”. Fuckers know what’s going on and don’t do a damn thing about it.


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Posts: 2832 | Location: Lake Anna, VA | Registered: May 07, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Just found out that a guy is boating the dogs in and letting them off on various parts of Lake Anna to run the deer off property they’re not supposed to have access to. I did get a call back from a DGIF warden last night but it’s the same old shit. “Nothing I can do until the law changes”. Fuckers know what’s going on and don’t do a damn thing about it.


Rank and file dgif officers would like the law to change. Part of the reason why the law failed by 2 votes. As given by some of the down voters. was that there simply did not seem to be a large number of complaints given to dgif. Yes there has been an uptick in calls, but not the large ammount purported by the proponents of the law. If you see and issue, call. If dgif can't make it out call the sherriff. call year round when they dump dogs. remember they run fox through the spring till end of bow season. Make the calls. keep writing Dgif will get the rule changed.
 
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I’d invest in a few large balloons and a tank of helium. Catch the dogs, tie off the collars to the balloon and let it fly, then take the dogs to a pound in the next county and then keep it to muself. You asked nicely and these entitled shit heads don’t give a shit. So why should you?
 
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Posted or not, I'd never even consider hunting on someone else's property without permission.
 
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Dog tastes ok if served with kimchi.





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Posts: 31432 | Location: Loudoun County, Virginia | Registered: May 17, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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The problem with these hunt clubs is that the dogs are often considered a tool, not a treasure. They are an expense, given food, water, fencing, doghouses, collars, tracking antennas, radios for everyone, and 10 months of maintenance for two months of hunting. Keeping the dog, turning it in, or in some way making the dog vanish is not an emotional concern for the club. More dogs can be and are bred every year.

England ended fox hunting, with dogs, and the landed gentry cried about tradition, passion, culture, and merry old England. Voting to end bad practices can be done successfully.


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Posts: 5051 | Location: Commonwealth of Virginia | Registered: January 15, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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they have threatened to citizens arrest him or me on our property


With apologies, and at the risk of thread drift: just how does Average JoeBob think he'd accomplish that? Come and handcuff you and cart you off to jail? I'm not sure I understand. I can picture this not going well at all.




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