Just received a local flyer for an LGS advertising 12.5” and 11.5” ar type “weapon” for sale. They show them with ar pistol style braces instead of a stock, and flash hiders are now ok in this configuration. Does not seem to qualify as a rifle or a pistol, similar to the Mossberg Shockwave.

Has anyone else seen this setup in NJ? I feel like I am missing something here.

-Jeff

Yes they are currently legal in NJ and available in many gun shops. There was one change to the original approval, the muzzle device has to be pinned and welded.

Similar situation in CT.
Neither a rifle nor a pistol--classified as an "other" because of the brace.
Go to....
https://www.sb-tactical.com/wp...etter-Position-1.pdf

After making some calls today and digging around the internet, it seems this is real. Not actually an SBR per say, but a work around that both the ATF and NJSP approve of.

While I am glad to see a few manufacturers find and exploit a loophole with our ridiculous laws, these things are stupid expensive in the current state of AR prices and availability.

At least us NJ folks can partake in a little SBRish fun now, if your willing to shell out what 2 standard ar’s cost.

Friggin’ Jersey...

-Jeff

Just a point on pricing. Grab A Gun has a Ruger 10 1/2" AR pistol with brace for $599. They also have a SA Saint 7 1/2" AR Pistol, which I have and love for $750. I don't consider either very excessive.

Now if you insist on spending a fortune on a scope or Red Dot yes, that will really raise the price. I bought a Firefield nice scope that also has a laser for $129

AR pistols are on the “no go” list for NJ, so the price point for them is moot.

There is or was a Bushmaster Carbon pistol that’s the only one that qualifies for the weight restriction, but who wants to shoot a hand guard delete AR pistol?

No joy for us suckers still stuck in NJ.

-Jeff

"Other Firearm" is NJ legal.
Check out RTSP in Randolph or Union, they have a nice assortment.

I've handled and shot the Troy versions in 9mm and 5.56 and they are great handling.

ETA: apologies, the rest of my post didn’t take this morning. The guns are essentially an SBR type in 10.5 or 12” barrels, 9mm 5.56 or .300blk, screw on flash hider style on the 12”, collapsible pistol brace. All NJ legal as “Other Firearm”.
They all come with a required vert forend grip from the Mfg to meet that OF rating. I’m not an expert on all the specs, so please look into it deeper, but they are NJSP approved and for sale.

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