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Han was never an evil man, but he was an orphan who grew up on the streets, and learned to rely on himself. He joined the Empire looking for something more, and found them to be a bunch of assholes, so he saved Chewie from slavery and left. Then he found himself an outlaw, working for Hutts and spice traders, but never an evil guy.

Original version has that his girlfriend was the one who led the Rogue One mission against his desires for her to stay the hell out of it all. Her being on a suicide mission further soured him on the Rebellion, and is also part of why he came back to save Luke and blow up the Death Star, to honor her.

So he wasn't evil, but he was a criminal and had no use for either side in the war. It was all the same to him.

But, of course Disney has shit on all of that canon so now I'm sure Han will be some nice guy hero type.


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Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
Han was never an evil man, but he was an orphan who grew up on the streets, and learned to rely on himself. He joined the Empire looking for something more, and found them to be a bunch of assholes, so he saved Chewie from slavery and left. Then he found himself an outlaw, working for Hutts and spice traders, but never an evil guy.

Original version has that his girlfriend was the one who led the Rogue One mission against his desires for her to stay the hell out of it all. Her being on a suicide mission further soured him on the Rebellion, and is also part of why he came back to save Luke and blow up the Death Star, to honor her.

So he wasn't evil, but he was a criminal and had no use for either side in the war. It was all the same to him.

But, of course Disney has shit on all of that canon so now I'm sure Han will be some nice guy hero type.


And I’m sure it will be overly multi-ethnic to appease all the millennial shit bags.



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Original version has that his girlfriend was the one who led the Rogue One mission against his desires for her to stay the hell out of it all. Her being on a suicide mission further soured him on the Rebellion, and is also part of why he came back to save Luke and blow up the Death Star, to honor her.


That's a piece I did not know. Thanks for sharing that.


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And the Falcon was old when he got it, not shiny new. It's had many owners and many many modifications.


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But, of course Disney has shit on all of that canon so now I'm sure Han will be some nice guy hero type.

Oh, you haven't heard, according to Rose, companies like Kaut Drive Yards, Icom, Corellian Engineering, and Siener Fleet Systems are the real enemies. Never mind some of them are keeping the rebellion er, resistance alive; nope they're all bad.
 
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But, of course Disney has shit on all of that canon so now I'm sure Han will be some nice guy hero type.

Oh, you haven't heard, according to Rose, companies like Kaut Drive Yards, Icom, Corellian Engineering, and Siener Fleet Systems are the real enemies. Never mind some of them are keeping the rebellion er, resistance alive; nope they're all bad.


Releasing space animals is where the real resistance is, cuz...
 
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Don't forget the fight against global warming on Tatooine. All those sandcrawlers and landspeeders dumping greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere, turning the lush grasslands into barren deserts... Big Grin

 
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And I’m sure it will be overly multi-ethnic to appease all the millennial shit bags.


Like, more Wookie, Sulustan, Hutt, Jawa, Gamorrean, Mon Calamari, Bothan, Twi'lek, Ugnaught and Tusken characters? That would suck.
 
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I'm hoping they don't make the strong females the moral center of the universe and the dumb, sexist men submit to their superiority. I always thought of Han's character as something like Clint Eastwood's man with no name in the spaghetti western trilogy. Where he's not good or bad, he's just out to make money and take care of himself. This is an opportunity for greatness but I have zero faith that Disney pulled it off.


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Here's the thing, gents. As long as Disney is making money from their lovable recreations of characters that conform to the gender fluid, eco-friendly, multi-sexual hipsters.........it will continue. Oh, I'm sure that once their profits take a big hit, they'll follow the NFL's handbook and try to go harder and faster, only to fail miserably.

Take the money out of their pockets, and this new wave hipster recreations will stop. But, as long as they can fill their movies with their tripe, and make shit loads of money, there is no reason for them to stop.


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I think it all looks great except for the actor playing Solo. Of course I'll be there opening night, hoping for the best though.


Great premise, but I agree: the guy playing Solo seems nothing like the character Ford brought to life.
Niles Solo?


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And I’m sure it will be overly multi-ethnic to appease all the millennial shit bags.


Like, more Wookie, Sulustan, Hutt, Jawa, Gamorrean, Mon Calamari, Bothan, Twi'lek, Ugnaught and Tusken characters? That would suck.


I’ll take more creatures over some Asian girl that can’t act to save her life. They’re just overdoing the ethnic deal and girl power, sorry bud. If you can’t cast it right then choose another path. This last one, oh my, that girl couldn’t act her way out of a paper bag. Or how about Poe doing a Verizon commercial in Star Wars. Maybe next film the characters will talk about their Star Wars social media app.

They’ve lost my business at the theater. I’ll watch their shit on disc when Netflix has it available. You have to make great film and they are not. They’re gaming the millenails for money.



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And I’m sure it will be overly multi-ethnic to appease all the millennial shit bags.


Like, more Wookie, Sulustan, Hutt, Jawa, Gamorrean, Mon Calamari, Bothan, Twi'lek, Ugnaught and Tusken characters? That would suck.


He didn't say multi-racial, he said multi-ethnic. I would be all for a new character of any of the alien races you've listed. What we're being given is a PC cast of sub-par actors just for the sake of making sure there's not a cast full of white people. Human being is a race, black or hispanic is an ethnicity.

But you knew that before you posted. If you want to be obtuse, that's fine, but at least be precise.
 
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"Sub-par acting" is however neither a race nor ethnicity, so that obviously wasn't the beef either. Thus I still find it funny that people would complain about the mix of skin colors in human characters in a universe with a gazillion species of every imaginable shape, color and size. If you were really going PC on Star Wars, realistically you'd have to question why all the lead characters are human, except for Chewbacca and Yoda (well, and the droids). What color those humans are becomes an afterthought then. I'm sure that actors who exceed the capabilities of Hayden Christensen can be found in any shade.
 
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Geez. Watching the teaser, I kept waiting for the actor that had some passing resemblance to a young Harrison Ford. Then I realized, there isn't one.




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A little off-topic, but I'd like to see a story based around all the guys who mine and construct the equipment used by the Empire and Rebellion. I imagine entire planets are destroyed to gather enough resources to build Death Stars and Star Destroyers.



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A little off-topic, but I'd like to see a story based around all the guys who mine and construct the equipment used by the Empire and Rebellion. I imagine entire planets are destroyed to gather enough resources to build Death Stars and Star Destroyers.
And which they destroy willy nilly, like police cruisers, in the Blues Brothers. Wink


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Originally posted by Prefontaine:
And I’m sure it will be overly multi-ethnic to appease all the millennial shit bags.


Like, more Wookie, Sulustan, Hutt, Jawa, Gamorrean, Mon Calamari, Bothan, Twi'lek, Ugnaught and Tusken characters? That would suck.


He didn't say multi-racial, he said multi-ethnic. I would be all for a new character of any of the alien races you've listed. What we're being given is a PC cast of sub-par actors just for the sake of making sure there's not a cast full of white people. Human being is a race, black or hispanic is an ethnicity.


I think that's the crux of most everyone's complaints about casting and the questionable screenplay doesn't help it. It's one thing to cast multi-racial actors who have either important parts or, bit parts. Lando of course is central to TESB and the Solo movie. Finn's character looked promising in TFA but, then his character in TLJ was so poorly written that it was reduced to comic relief and tokenism. Same for Rose Tico...her role was non-essential to the movie despite the amount of lines and screen time she received. I like the actress but, what she got and how she was used, made her role pointless and thus reinforced the image that this movie was on a SJW equality-rampage.
 
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A little off-topic, but I'd like to see a story based around all the guys who mine and construct the equipment used by the Empire and Rebellion. I imagine entire planets are destroyed to gather enough resources to build Death Stars and Star Destroyers.


According to original canon this was the reason the Death Star laser tech was invented, originally to crack open plants or large moons, asteroids, etc and get at the resources in the core. Then the Empire realized it had much better military uses, like blowing up Alderaan.


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Here's the thing, gents. As long as Disney is making money from their lovable recreations of characters that conform to the gender fluid, eco-friendly, multi-sexual hipsters.........it will continue. Oh, I'm sure that once their profits take a big hit, they'll follow the NFL's handbook and try to go harder and faster, only to fail miserably.

Take the money out of their pockets, and this new wave hipster recreations will stop. But, as long as they can fill their movies with their tripe, and make shit loads of money, there is no reason for them to stop.


Yep, as long as people still go apeshit for Star Wars movies, they'll just keep cranking them out no matter how good or bad they are.


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