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double standards liam neeson
 
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Jane Fonda
 
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James Dean. Never understood his star power, other than the fact that he died young.
 
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James Dean. Never understood his star power, other than the fact that he died young.


Gotta' disagree with you, Sir.

Find a 1955 copy of "East of Eden". IMO, Dean's best acting.

BTW, costar Raymond Massey would agree with you. He called Dean the "Little Bastard".


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Jim Carrey. Always the same guy and I never liked any of them. When he tried to be in a serious role, it was just painful to watch. Made me feel like Malcom McDowell in A Clockwork Orange.

Will Farrell is on that same mold.

Although not on the A List, we can't let William Shatner off the hook. As much as it breaks my Trekkie heart, he is more of a caricature actor than character.


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Kristen Stewart. Painfully bad.

I hate to say that Keanu Reeves is bad because he seems like a great guy, but he's turned in a few cringe-worthy scenes over the yars. Love him as John Wick though, so he's all good in my book.
 
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James Dean. Never understood his star power, other than the fact that he died young.


Gotta' disagree with you, Sir.

Find a 1955 copy of "East of Eden". IMO, Dean's best acting.

BTW, costar Raymond Massey would agree with you. He called Dean the "Little Bastard".


To each his own. I don't have anything against him, just didn't think he was all that special. I am at least 20 years older than I was the last time I tried to watch one of his movies, so maybe I'll give him another chance.

My screen idols were Wayne, Mitchum, and Heston, so I'm sure it could be argued that I am a questionable judge of acting talent Big Grin
 
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I have to add Stephan Seagal
 
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Funny thing about Ben Affleck--I'd agree terrible actor.
But his much-less-well known brother Casey put in one of the best acting performances of all time (per Nolte at Breitbart, for example) in "The Assassination of Jesse James...".

Cage is awful, but I would watch National Treasure again to see Diane Kruger.


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Laura Dern and Stallone.



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John Wayne.

Come on - his career lasted decades and he was crazy popular that whole time. He virtually always played the same character, and did it fairly woodenly, at that.

People have named a lot of mediocre actors in this thread, but none of them had the lasting popularity and reputation of Wayne while being so persistently middle-of-the-road.

DeNiro has lasted that long, and he has been something of a one (or two)-trick pony for the last ten or fifteen years, but he was something else in his younger days. (And some may be listing him here because he has made himself a real pain in the ass lately.)




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Funny thing about Ben Affleck--I'd agree terrible actor.
But his much-less-well known brother Casey put in one of the best acting performances of all time (per Nolte at Breitbart, for example) in "The Assassination of Jesse James..."


That film, and moreso that character and performance were some of the most underrated in all of Western film history. I think the bleak, brooding feel of it puts a lot of people off, but for my money, it’s much better than Tombstone in every way, which is tantamount to heresy amongst some who seem to consider it the gold standard for a modern western.

Ben Affleck can’t act worth a damn, and deserves a spot on this list for sure. His younger brother Casey got all the acting chops in that family. He’s even great in Good Will Hunting.
 
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Jim Carrey...just terrible.
 
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Jack Black
 
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Hands down Jennifer Jason Leigh. Only two movies I've seen her in are "Fast Times..." and "Backdraft". Performance in Backdraft was painful to watch. Got tired of her monotone delivery REAL quick...



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Kristen Stewart. Painfully bad.


In every film of hers I've seen (which is not many, to be honest), she always looks like she's constipated. Perhaps a laxative and a good crap would help.
 
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John Wayne.

Come on - his career lasted decades and he was crazy popular that whole time. He virtually always played the same character, and did it fairly woodenly, at that.


Sure, John Wayne pretty much played himself, but he did it very well, I don't call it bad acting. Lawrence Olivier could play a lot of different characters, but could never do what John Wayne did. The guy worked in over 100 films, and sure he had his share of stinkers, but nobody can say The Searchers, Red River, Stagecoach, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, nobody can say that these films sucked, and the reason the films were great was because of John Wayne. As far as other actors who "play themselves", Cary Grant, Clark Gable, Humphrey Bogart, Al Pacino, Bruce Willis, Tom Cruise, George Clooney, Harrison Ford, etc. pretty much fall into this paradigm. IMO, there are very few well known actors that can completely "disappear" into a part.



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Add Dean Martin to Oddball’s list of examples. Or Jack Palance.

There’s character actors who play themselves because they fit well into certain roles (and occasionally get shoe-horned into roles they shouldn’t play), and then there’s bad famous actors. It’s not a distinction without a difference.

Everything Jhe contends about John Wayne easily applies to Samuel Jackson, perhaps even more so. It doesn’t make him a bad actor, it makes him a typecast character actor. Nobody drops an angry black man “motherfucker” the way he does, so when you want and need that in a film, you get Sam Jackson. Who will take that mantle when he passes? Who has filled John Wayne’s boots since he passed?
 
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Jerry Seinfeld...the soup nazi was a better actor Cool
 
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I'm shocked nobody has mentioned Vince Vaughn. He is at the very top of my worst actors list.
 
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