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And now: The Sig P365 SAS

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September 07, 2019, 02:56 PM
Orive 8
And now: The Sig P365 SAS
quote:
Reminds me of the old ASP 9 S&W conversions...


Yep, that's what I thought too. The Guttersnipe system.

I'm also in the no porting camp...


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September 07, 2019, 02:59 PM
H&K-Guy
Nope.

What good does a compensated barrel do on a sub compact 9mm pistola? There is not enough pressure to make it worth doing.

H&K-Guy
September 07, 2019, 04:33 PM
YooperSigs
Well..... Ok! But i want to actually shoot one to see how the sighting system actually works. And the port just means more noise and blast.
And whats the cost, compared to the standard 365?


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September 07, 2019, 04:42 PM
dking271
The Kimberization of Sig continues. I don’t know why, but I look at that and immediately think of the Kimber Solo.


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September 07, 2019, 04:42 PM
arfmel
I’ll wait for the Rainbow Titanium model




September 07, 2019, 05:04 PM
Chiefneon
Howdy!

Some may like the slick finish that can’t catch on anything. The problem I see with it, it does away with most use of one handed injuries limb manipulation of the gun.

“Happy Trails”
Chiefneon
September 07, 2019, 05:20 PM
18DAI
I'd rather have the ASP 9mm. But since I can't afford one, I will stick with the CS9. Regards 18DAI




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September 07, 2019, 05:22 PM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by Chiefneon:
Howdy!

Some may like the slick finish that can’t catch on anything. The problem I see with it, it does away with most use of one handed injuries limb manipulation of the gun.

“Happy Trails”
Chiefneon

For those who live in war zones, or those who worry about an event that is so unlikely to happen in your lifetime, or those who just fantasize about being in such a situation, then the gun is not for you, I get it. You just get a non-SAS model and be happy.

But, wait, there's more. I thought you can still rack the slide using its muzzle end, or, release the slide by sling shot using your two knees, even if you lose one hand. Big Grin


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September 07, 2019, 05:50 PM
Johnny 3eagles
Nope, just grip the slide with your teeth.



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September 07, 2019, 06:20 PM
SevenPlusOne
quote:
Originally posted by Johnny 3eagles:
Nope, just grip the slide with your teeth.

That doesn't work if you ain't got no teef.



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September 07, 2019, 06:32 PM
esdunbar
I must be an amazing shooter! I’m not sure how many thousands of draws I’ve made, but I have yet to hang up my front sight on my holster let alone a slide release or takedown lever.

Either I’m a savant, or this notion of “snagging” a pistol when drawing it is pure horse shit.

The sights intrigue me none the less and I look forward to trying them.

As for this gun...I ran out and bought a 365 right away. I ran out and bought a 365 XL right away...I want nothing to do with this gun.

I use my slide release for reloads, I despise ported barrels and I hate holes in my slide even more. I might like the flush take down lever for comfort on my weak thumb (love Glocks for this), but it looks like I need a screwdriver to use it? That would be something that would annoy me.


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September 07, 2019, 06:50 PM
leonidas211
I am going to wait for the legion 365 sas long slide.

I like options. Probably will pick one up.


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September 07, 2019, 07:12 PM
Nipper
The "Details" section of the Sig link is a masterpiece of B.S. marketing geniuses gone bezerk.

It opens with: "The P365SAS was designed for the serious CCW user who truly understands the value of smoother draws, faster sight acquisition, and more effective engagements at realistic distances."

Apparently, you are an unserious CCW user if you don't TRULY understand the value of the qualities embodied in this historic, ground-breaking, revolution in the development of the defensive handgun. Oye vey. Roll Eyes

In 50 years of daily carry and defensive shooting, I have never had a CCW "snag". However, if it does occur over the NEXT 50 years, I promise to let my compadres on the SF know.


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September 07, 2019, 07:25 PM
Phelen_Kell
It looks like the sights can be removed and the spot can be repurposed to do an optic?

optic version coming soon?
September 07, 2019, 08:14 PM
sigNull
As a wearer of bifocals I'm interested in seeing if the circle dot sights on this are easier for me to use for aiming.


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September 07, 2019, 08:42 PM
Skins2881
quote:
Originally posted by Nipper:
... B.S. marketing geniuses gone bezerk.
..designed for the serious CCW user who truly understands ....



I need to start getting serious about my CCW. I do I attain this understanding?



Jesse

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September 07, 2019, 08:54 PM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by Phelen_Kell:
It looks like the sights can be removed and the spot can be repurposed to do an optic?

Totally defeats the SAS concept. Not just that, but also defeats the purpose of the micro-compact.


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September 08, 2019, 05:59 AM
egregore
quote:
Doesn't appear to be any way to tweak the sights if they're a smidgen off.
This sight, I am sure, is only meant for ranges of a few feet, maybe 12 feet maximum. This is the approximate range at which my accuracy with the "Cirillo 'silhouette point'" began to fall off. But there is another problem - not every shooting situation is that close.
September 08, 2019, 09:59 AM
Lefty Sig
Although the marketing is a bit over the top, I can see the SAS being used with a minimalist trigger-guard-only IWB holster.

I have the Raven one from Sig, which can also be used as a lanyard holster:


So with one of these, snagging "might" be an issue.
September 08, 2019, 10:55 AM
Nipper
quote:
Originally posted by egregore:
quote:
Doesn't appear to be any way to tweak the sights if they're a smidgen off.
This sight, I am sure, is only meant for ranges of a few feet, maybe 12 feet maximum. This is the approximate range at which my accuracy with the "Cirillo 'silhouette point'" began to fall off. But there is another problem - not every shooting situation is that close.

Took a course from Jim Cirillo in 1996, along with a group of LE trainers. The technique worked just fine with my "obsolete" 1911 at seven yards. Worked for just about everybody else as well, with the duty guns in use during that era.

A few years ago, I tested a P226 .40 at seven yards. From the holster, group size was about seven inches. It was a test for functioning, not accuracy. BTW, it had NO sights on the slide. Just got it back from Sig for slide bead blasting and wanted to make sure it functioned before installing new sights.

Using the high ready (high pec) position, I can get hand sized groups easily at five yards and under. BTW, the top of the slide is just below the chin using this technique. I won't even get into old fashioned Fairbairn style one-handed point shooting used in Shanghai after the turn of the LAST century (early 1900's). In other words, NO special equipment required for good hits at close ranges.

Also, seems to me that the rear night sight with no front sight would not lend itself to accurate alignment in low light conditions. You're pointing/indexing with the BACK of the slide rather than the front. Nowadays, many shooters prefer a front night sight and a black rear.

As ORIVE 8 mentioned, it does look similar to the ASP Guttersnipe. I can't recall any feedback regarding their functionality back then. Weren't many ASP's produced anyway.

If the new P365 SAS was marketed as curing baldness though, I might be interested. Razz


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