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I Am The Walrus
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These long wait times is what has turned away from buying a suppressor or two or three. I guess I'm at the point where I'm going to wait to see if the HPA goes through. Paying $200 and waiting a year isn't my idea of a good time.


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Posts: 8318 | Location: Central Florida | Registered: March 12, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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IMO the HPA will never even come for a vote. I'd buy what you want. Form 4's are moving much faster now.

As an aside, I received my Form 4 stamp about two weeks ago; I sent in a Form 1 at the same time. I wanted to make sure that the Form 1 stamp wasn't lost in the mail so I called the BATFE to check on it. I've never called them to check on the status before. I must say, the lady was very polite and gave me a good update.

She said Form 1's from the end of July '16 are being processed now. Just an FYI for those waiting on a Form 1.


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Posts: 5741 | Location: Toledo, Ohio | Registered: April 19, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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^^^I have always been thoroughly impressed whenever I've had the need to contact the ATF in the past. I recently had an issue with a missing approved 5320.20 in relation to our recent move. The woman suggested I e-mail a request for a certified copy and they'd get one sent out. Shot the e-mail off early on a Tuesday morning, had the copies in hand via USPS by Saturday afternoon. Very impressive.



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Posts: 3844 | Location: Burleson, TX | Registered: April 14, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Just got a call from my dealer. My form 4 came in and is ready for pickup. Submitted Nov 1, 2016, using a Trust by HeavyD. My dealer got a kick out of the addendum leaving only me on the trust for the paperwork submittal. I feel like a kid at Christmas.
 
Posts: 591 | Location: PA  | Registered: December 05, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Just picked up my AAC Ti-Rant 9 last weekend.
I bought it online. Transfer to my Class III dealer took 3 months. My approval by ATF took 13 months.
It took 16 months from purchase to receiving the can. Ridiculous!
Why should it take 3 months to transfer from a licensed dealer to a licensed dealer? (Government health care, anyone?)
Why should it take 13 months to run a background check on me? The last pistol that I purchased took 5 minutes to run the background check.
The whole thing is ridiculous.
Oh, did I mention that this is ridiculous?


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Posts: 219 | Location: Colorado | Registered: August 13, 2016Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by arlen:
Just picked up my AAC Ti-Rant 9 last weekend.
I bought it online. Transfer to my Class III dealer took 3 months. My approval by ATF took 13 months.
It took 16 months from purchase to receiving the can. Ridiculous!
Why should it take 3 months to transfer from a licensed dealer to a licensed dealer? (Government health care, anyone?)
Why should it take 13 months to run a background check on me? The last pistol that I purchased took 5 minutes to run the background check.
The whole thing is ridiculous.
Oh, did I mention that this is ridiculous?

Yer preachin to the choir bud ...

Besides, its all the yahoos that waited until they thought they could't get one in the near future and waited until the last moment that bogged up the system.

This is the same system that before the Obamanation took office in 2008; I had my very first Form 1 back in 61 days ... these were paper form's through the mail!


If you really want something you'll find a way ...
... if you don't you'll find an excuse.

I'm really not a "kid" anymore ... but I haven't grown up yet either Wink
 
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My first suppressor, which I bought 4 or 5 years ago, took 12 months from purchase to possession. I was so excited by that purchase that I considered the wait time as an adventure. With this, my most recent purchase, I would have been happy with the ridiculous 12 month wait. But 16 months? That is a "ridiculous", ridiculous wait.


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Posts: 219 | Location: Colorado | Registered: August 13, 2016Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I had other NFA items but like you, I bought my first suppressors about 5 years ago which was either just before or very soon after Sandy Hook ... one that the dealer had in stock was 7-8 months while the ones he had to order were about 336 days if memory serves ... I got them because I had a financial wind fall and decided what the heck; lets see what all the hype is about with suppressors. So I bought one for 22, 45 and 308 which covered my "needs" for 9 and 223 as well and my dealer said I wouldn't notice the difference between them and caliber specific suppressors.


If you really want something you'll find a way ...
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I'm really not a "kid" anymore ... but I haven't grown up yet either Wink
 
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Friend was able to pick up his SOCOM this week.

8 months and a day or so from submission to approval. Better than the 12 months I have been seeing.
 
Posts: 636 | Location: Ohio | Registered: August 14, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I filed 2 Form 1's this last week. 9/2/17 to be exact. My dealer (only partly joking, mostly optimistically)thinks I'll see approvals before Christmas. I'm guessing more like Q1 of 2018. We shall see - the friendly wager is on.


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Posts: 6464 | Location: Alpine, Ut | Registered: February 17, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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If you're doing F4's, be sure you or your dealer use the new barcoded forms from SilencerShop. You'll leapfrog right in the examiner's queue over old forms submitted as they don't need to hit the data entry queue.
 
Posts: 1038 | Location: Leesburg VA | Registered: December 21, 2014Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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If you're doing F4's, be sure you or your dealer use the new barcoded forms from SilencerShop. You'll leapfrog right in the examiner's queue over old forms submitted as they don't need to hit the data entry queue.

The above info is VERY good advise!

Also ... if you are buying any item your dealer is transferring on a form 3;

MAKE SURE YOUR DEALER IS SUBMITTING IT ON LINE AND NOT FAXING OR MAILING IT IN!

I bought a transferable M11 on 7/21 paid for it in full on 7/25 ... and the "old guy in the shop" submitted the form 3 by fax ... and to be completely honest he told me it would be 4-6 weeks ... but I didn't know it could have been done on line ... and been approved in a couple days ... or as little as a few HOURS!

It really pisses me off that this last month could have at least seen my purchase and it could have been me waiting on my form 4 instead of all this time waiting on the dealer to dealer transfer!

All I get from the shop owner is "Sorry, I didn't know he was submitting it that way, and there is nothing we can do about it now because its "pending".


If you really want something you'll find a way ...
... if you don't you'll find an excuse.

I'm really not a "kid" anymore ... but I haven't grown up yet either Wink
 
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yep....e-filed F3's are coming back same-day. I bought two suppressors for a dealer in AR and they cashed my check on Saturday and F3 came back at midnight Saturday night.
 
Posts: 1038 | Location: Leesburg VA | Registered: December 21, 2014Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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SBR on a form 4- Check cashed 12/15/16, Approved 8/31/17
 
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I just bought a transferable full auto Cobray M-11 with a LAGE barreled receiver, form 3 was submitted yesterday ...

I said "No More" but ... Here we go AGAIN!



It may be an incurable disease ... but when machine guns keep out preforming all my other investments ... and I can play with them too ... what do you expect!
Just an update, on the the dealer to dealer transfer of the M-11 I bought on July 20, finally arrived at my dealer on Thursday ... fortunately it was my day off and I got down to Walgreens for my passport photo, the sheriffs office for my fingerprints and got my Trust updated & noterized so I was able to get my Form 4 filled out, my dealer is going to try to get it efiled ... he said they have done it for suppressors they got from Silencerco but they haven't for anything that didn't come in by efile so hopefully they will get it done by efile instead of paper forms.


If you really want something you'll find a way ...
... if you don't you'll find an excuse.

I'm really not a "kid" anymore ... but I haven't grown up yet either Wink
 
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I've been reading the forums at nfatracker.com. it seems like stamps are being recieved quicker for form 4s being filed as an individual vs a trust. Individual form 4s seem to be at Jan-Mar 2017, while first form 4s seem to be at Jul-Nov of 2016 still. I assume form 1s are similar.

When I called the ATF last week asking for a status on my trust form 4, the last said they are on July 2016 still. So, take it for what it's worth.
 
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Contacted the ATF/NFA office this morning to check on my suppressor stamp approval. Local FFL filed it mid-October 2016 and my check was cashed at that time. My application was filed under my gun trust, not as an individual, which as I learned today, is apparently a factor in approval times.

The agent on the phone today was courteous, as has been the case on previous occasions when I have called the past 6 months. Agent stated that they are currently approving "trust-filed" forms from early July 2016, alluding to them being handled differently. I asked for clarification, and was told that single-individual applications are getting priority over trust-filed, due to single background check, vs. numerous individuals who may be listed on a trust. Not sure if this is their way of working through the backlog more quickly, which resulted from the large quantity of forms leading up to the July 2016 regulations cutover, but had I known in October that this scenario may exist I would have filed it as an individual. Must have missed that one.

Live and learn, I guess, but that's my recent update.
 
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That's interesting to hear, I just filed a form 4 with a trust, last week ... I'm the only one actually in the trust besides by wife and son which are only beneficiaries. The only reason I put My NFA items in the trust is so that hopefully they will get the proper handling they require, not just sold off at auction ... I'd really just like to have it by early summer 2018; spring would be nice but I've got other MG's to keep me busy until then ... Plus my C3 said we could work out some conjugal visits at the range if I brought my registered sear in the MP5K or MP5SD ... jailers, they're all alike Smile


If you really want something you'll find a way ...
... if you don't you'll find an excuse.

I'm really not a "kid" anymore ... but I haven't grown up yet either Wink
 
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I used the trust for basically the same reason, to help with passing them on when that time comes.
 
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