I'm confused. Are these animals supposed to be in a crate or not?

Guess I need to get out more. I don't remember seeing an animal in the passenger cabin ever. But, like I said, I may need to get out more.

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Originally posted by Bassamatic:
I'm confused. Are these animals supposed to be in a crate or not?

Guess I need to get out more. I don't remember seeing an animal in the passenger cabin ever. But, like I said, I may need to get out more.

Every single time when I fly which is at least two times a month and sometimes more, there is an animal on my flight. Every single time. It's insane.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by Bassamatic:
I'm confused. Are these animals supposed to be in a crate or not?

Guess I need to get out more. I don't remember seeing an animal in the passenger cabin ever. But, like I said, I may need to get out more.

Every single time when I fly which is at least two times a month and sometimes more, there is an animal on my flight. Every single time. It's insane.

Yes, but Bassamatic was talking about animal-animals, not human(-ish) passengers.

-Rob

With adult supervision back, perhaps the Americans with Disabilities Act - which makes it illegal to ask what the disability might be, and what the peccary/turkey/tarantula/whatever might be trained to do to address it - could be amended to address this nonsense.

My theory is that the person w/ the dog was boarded first since they are a person who "needs special assistance" And the poor bastard that was bit was just trying to squeeze in to his seat by the window.

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Originally posted by BurtonRW:

Yes, but Bassamatic was talking about animal-animals, not human(-ish) passengers.

-Rob

Ohhhh...gotcha. My mistake.

Just a quick sidetrack, on my flight to France a few weeks ago (I was flying alone; my wife and daughter were already over there), I had the pleasure of some young boy stretching out to sleep next to me with his head on his father's lap and his stinky, dang feet on mine. I tolerated that for about 45 seconds before shoving them off of me.



Then on the flight home, there was this lady who had her feet inches from the head of the dude sitting in front of her. Her feet actually hit his head a few times. I don't know how he tolerated that quietly.



Anyway, my point which I've made before is that flying nowadays is awful 90% of the time due to the trash who I'm forced to fly with. The flying public is the absolute worst, and this animals on planes nonsense is just the icing on the cake.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Anyway, my point which I've made before is that flying nowadays is awful 90% of the time due to the trash who I'm forced to fly with. The flying public is the absolute worst, and this animals on planes nonsense is just the icing on the cake.

Four-legged AND two-legged animals

In the doctor's office yesterday, there was a woman female snowflake with a dog, filling out (filling in?) the new patient paperwork.

When the nurse called me in, I quietly remarked that I am a dog lover, but a doctor's office is not an appropriate setting for Fido. The nurse looked at me, nodded in agreement, and indicated that it was not her place to say anything about it.

I personally think as a pet owner, if you have your pets around people, then your dog need bite work training. In that training, you train a dog when NOT to bite as much as training him when to bite, plus you add control with that. The fact is that most dogs WILL bite, it is just when.
The worst kind of dog is the one that bites when it is afraid. If not properly socialized, dogs get afraid of a lot of things and will bite often.

People just don't know how to behave in public. Manners and decorum went out the window in the '60s, and "just let it all hang out" became the new norm. We recently had a thread about graduations with yelling, whistling, cow bells and air horns. I don't go to movie theaters-- where the audience talks, puts their feet up on the arm rest of your chair-- because I know I will end up in prison.

My emotional support stripper changes extra to bite you.

My eldest who served as a Corpman with the Marine Scout-Snipers incurred numerous injuries both physical and mental. He has a service dog, trained at a well recognized west coast outfit, that has made a significant difference in his life. Lately his job has him doing a lot of traveling including by air. No issues at all. Properly trained services dogs DO make a difference and are safe travelling on public conveyances. People need to leave these animals alone. Do not try to engage, pet, whatever. They're working and do not need to be interfered with.

My recent thread about his being invited to a wounded warfighters gala here: https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...690097324#1690097324


With his service dog Stark

with Scott R. Blackburn, Interim Deputy Secretary Department of Veteran Affairs



And yes there seems to be a great deal of abuse with faux service / emotional support animals. Pisses me off.

I get the impression that a lot of this "emotional support animal" bullshit is a total scam by certain airline passengers to be able to get on and off a plane first ahead of anyone else.

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Originally posted by bald1:

And yes there seems to be a great deal of abuse with faux service / emotional support animals. Pisses me off.

95% is abuse.

That and more importantly they avoid paying for transport. They also don't have to keep animal in crate.

Its fucking retarded. I see it every day and every day it gets more and more ridiculous. Emotional support Great Danes, oh yea. Enjoy sitting with that next to you. And I love dogs. Just not on airplanes. Or in stores and restaurants.

That escaped animal that ended up in cockpit happened to a friend of mine. It was kind of funny and idiotic at the same time.

Sanity needs to rear its head at some point.

What JustJoe said. Courtesy, respect, all too often these seem to be historical concepts.

They have not totally disappeared, most of the people I know personally still have a great deal of regard for these things, but too many of the random people I encounter when I'm out in public are totally thoughtless, or maybe they are thinking and they act like this deliberately. "Me first, me first, screw you, I want what I want."

Just too many encounters like this. Driving. Public accommodations. Ten items or less at the express register. Hold a door for someone. Make eye contact and say "thank you."

The Monkey summed it up on one word: "Oy!"

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Every single time when I fly which is at least two times a month and sometimes more, there is an animal on my flight. Every single time. It's insane.

Hmmm... I fly several times a month and have NEVER been on a plane with one. I very rarely see them in terminals. I mostly fly out of Nashville but fly to Cali (usually Oakland but sometimes San Fran), Vegas, NYC, DC, and Tampa. So maybe this is a regional thing...

Mark

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by bald1:

And yes there seems to be a great deal of abuse with faux service / emotional support animals. Pisses me off.

95% is abuse.

Yep the same docs that write anyone with a pulse a medical mj script will write anyone with a pulse an emotional support animal script. It's bs that your existing, untrained dog magically becomes an emotional support animal that can go on/in airplanes, restaurants, stores, etc. with a stroke of a pen.

Here, save on airfare... http://www.emotionalsupportanimalcenter.com/

"In the event that you do not qualify for an Emotional Support Animal letter a full refund of your fee will be made."

Another reason to want never to go anywhere near commercial air travel ever again.