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ensig,

I've spent literally zero time arguing with morons either here or elsewhere on the internet & I won't be starting now.

You can state your opinion which you do here a lot & feel secure in having it.

Or as they proffer to the midwits often encountered in the south "Bless your heart" Smile



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*yawn*




"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
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Since I'm lifting quotes from some damn good accounts on Twitter tonight.......reading up on Team Trump.......

"The distant rear of an army engaged in battle is not the best place from which to judge correctly what is going on in front." - President Ulysses S. Grant



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Oh, I do understand very well how Wiki works. No need to hold my hand. This is not the first time I read their poltical pages. So, I stand by what I said. We're just going to have to disagree about this.
 
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We're just going to have to disagree about this.

Works for me Smile




"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher
"The dominant media is no more ``mainstream`` than leftists are liberals." -- me
 
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Anybody who looks at the multiplicity of decent conservative websites over even the last four years has seen how slanted the 'community' of Wikipedia edits anyone they want to elevate / tear down. Its completely unreliable for anything but the most mundane of knowledge.

I use it as a quick check for dumb stuff like 'when did this group write that song' or such. Trying to rely on it for anything political or remotely of interest to those on the right is silly.

Partial Wikipedia entry on President Trump, obviously filed recently:

'Trump reacted slowly to the COVID-19 pandemic. He downplayed the threat, ignored or contradicted many recommendations from health officials, and promoted false information about unproven treatments and the availability of testing. Trump lost the 2020 presidential election to Biden, but has refused to concede defeat. He has made unsubstantiated accusations of electoral fraud, mounted mostly unsuccessful legal challenges to the results, and ordered White House officials not to cooperate in the presidential transition. When the legal challenges failed, he retreated from public activities.[2]'

No bias there. Big Grin



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While all of y'all constitutional scholars and media investigators are getting all wound up, this mere American citizen is focused on this little phrase by our founding fathers "consent of the governed".

Pontificate all you want, but this is all that matters.


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While all of y'all constitutional scholars and media investigators are getting all wound up, this mere American citizen is focused on this little phrase by our founding fathers "consent of the governed".

Pontificate all you want, but this is all that matters.
Unfortunately, the country is fairly evenly divided and that will is not yet abundantly clear, however much we might wish it to be (in our favor).

Equally unfortunatly, the two diverse populations are so fully intermingled that it is not possible to just separate into 2 nations (if that were even permitted). Somehow, we will have to live with each other after this is over.

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Lets try Donald Trump Jr. at Wikipedia.

Similar to Donald Trump cite above, very first block of his bio:

rump Jr. currently serves as a trustee and executive vice president of the Trump Organization, running the company alongside his younger brother Eric.[2] During their father's presidency, the brothers continued to do deals and investments in foreign countries, as well as collect payments in their U.S. properties from foreign governments, despite a pledge that they would not do so.[3] Trump Jr. also served as a boardroom judge on his father's TV show The Apprentice.

Trump Jr. has been active politically, serving in his father's presidential campaign. He authored Triggered in 2019 and Liberal Privilege in 2020. He had a meeting with a Russian lawyer who promised damaging information about the campaign of Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential election.[4][5][6] He has promoted conspiracy theories and false information.[7][8][9] On November 5, 2020, he advocated "total war" instead of completion of vote counting in the 2020 United States elections.[10]

Dang, another honeypot Wiki entry, no bias there either Big Grin



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Lets try Donald Trump Jr. at Wikipedia.

Similar to Donald Trump cite above, very first block of his bio:

rump Jr. currently serves as a trustee and executive vice president of the Trump Organization, running the company alongside his younger brother Eric.[2] During their father's presidency, the brothers continued to do deals and investments in foreign countries, as well as collect payments in their U.S. properties from foreign governments, despite a pledge that they would not do so.[3] Trump Jr. also served as a boardroom judge on his father's TV show The Apprentice.

Trump Jr. has been active politically, serving in his father's presidential campaign. He authored Triggered in 2019 and Liberal Privilege in 2020. He had a meeting with a Russian lawyer who promised damaging information about the campaign of Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential election.[4][5][6] He has promoted conspiracy theories and false information.[7][8][9] On November 5, 2020, he advocated "total war" instead of completion of vote counting in the 2020 United States elections.[10]

Dang, another honeypot Wiki entry, no bias there either Big Grin


What is inaccurate about it?
 
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The point was left wing bias, not inaccuracy.

Lets roll with Wikipedia being a solid reference for conservative folks though.

While we're at it, Tucker Carlson, Fox News all the other supposed right wing influencers who used to pretend to be on our side, validate all of them and encourage others to do the same. What could go wrong.



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How about we stop with all the Wikipedia quotes taking up space here? This is the thread about the Trump Presidency, not a pissing contest about Wikipedia and other sources.
 
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455 page thread and we're worried about a couple quotes taking up space now. Roll Eyes


Leslie McAdoo Gordon on the legal strategy of the Trump campaign (she's solid and provided legal support for Gen Flynn when Sidney Powell was trying to get his charges dropped):

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"Sometimes knowing you are going to lose in a lower court & just getting that part over with, is what you need to do to get the higher court that you think may agree with you.


You’re not trying to lose, you just know you are, usually because the law is against you & you’re trying to change that. Of course, you’re only doing this strategy with competent counsel & arguments. And ideally not with stand in last minute counsel."


I've seen a couple of IT types posting on things that they've seen with regard to the Dominion machines & their database being easily compromised, hopefully that expertise can be leveraged on behalf of the campaign & introduced as evidence.



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Been a watcher of FLOX news for quite some time and while they were always only considered more tolerable by myself. I have watch the horseshit change by them as of late.
Their opinions on all of this have been disgusting with the exception of a very few of them. Being Hannity, Judge Janine, Dagen McDowell and Jesse Watters.

The rest are as my wife likes to state are "Milk Toast"

Another thing I have notice about Fox is that 99% of the expert contributors have also changed since the election.
 
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While all of y'all constitutional scholars and media investigators are getting all wound up, this mere American citizen is focused on this little phrase by our founding fathers "consent of the governed".

Pontificate all you want, but this is all that matters.


Dependent upon how 'consent of the governed' is acquired.

Russia, Iran, Cuba, China, Venezuela, onward, all acquire(d) consent of the governed via an electoral process.

Our electoral process is getting close to the above's electoral process.

Let's see what the Krakken presents in a court of law, if laws still apply.


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Waiting for Sidney

https://amgreatness.com/2020/1.../waiting-for-sidney/

So what is the state of play regarding the 2020 presidential election? There seem to be two main positions.

One is that Joe Biden won the election, narrowly but with sufficient latitude that any challenge is bootless. A corollary of that contention is that the adults in the room, be they Republicans or Democrats, should get with the program and accede to the Narrative.

Over the past week or so, I have had many Republican friends—including some sympathetic to President Trump—explain that the fight is essentially over. Some acknowledge the political wisdom of Trump pursuing every legal recourse. Yet the assumption is always the same: the game is lost but, like a transmission from a distant galaxy, the news has not yet reached us. “To preserve our democracy,” both Left and Right say, we will soon need to draw a line under the election of 2020 and declare Joe Biden the winner.

If you are a Democratic mouthpiece—i.e., if you are a spokesman for the mainstream media—then you think (or at least you say) that Trump’s refusal to concede is “damaging democracy” and isn’t it just the kind of bad behavior you would expect of a man of “bad character” who should never have been president in the first place? Those on the Right, many of them, want or at least are willing to let the “process” play out but in their heart-of-hearts they have already conceded and are calculating how they might turn this unfortunate situation to their advantage.

The other main position—and let me hasten to acknowledge that it is mine—is that this election was riddled with voter fraud. Nor was it the usual taken-for-granted and (between us sophisticated men of the world) acceptable margin of fraud but a planned and systematic assault on the integrity of our election that overturned a convincing victory for Donald Trump.

I believe this partly because of the stunning statistical anomalies in the election—I have written about this several times (here, for example, and here).

But I believe the election was fraudulent for other reasons as well. Perhaps the chief reason has to do with the allegations put forward by Sidney Powell, a prominent attorney who is part of President Trump’s legal team. She has laid out her case many times in the last couple of weeks, including at an “opening statement” press conference on November 19 at which she, Rudy Giuliani, Jenna Ellis, and other members of Trump’s legal team offered a précis of their case.

Their presentation was widely, if not quite universally, condemned by the media. “Where is the evidence?” was one cry, but another, less articulate though more insistent was “Evidence be damned, just shut up and get Trump out of office!”

Suddenly, a lot of people were imitating the state of Missouri, responding to every allegation with the demand “Show me!” Tucker Carlson delighted Trump’s enemies and enraged his friends by pointedly asking what evidence Powell had. He later updated his comments, noting that if Powell is right, she has, almost single-handedly, uncovered what is perhaps the biggest political crime in our nation’s history.

It has not, let me admit, been entirely smooth sailing for Powell. Shortly after the election, she helped publicize the idea that “The Hammer” and “Scorecard” software allegedly written for our intelligence services and deployed abroad to intervene in foreign elections, was used in our election. Unfortunately, it is not at all clear that those programs even exist.

That revelation has to make even those of us who, like me, are on Powell’s side take a step or two back. If Hammer and Scorecard were figments of someone’s imagination, how about the allegations that Dominion voting machines are hackable by design, that they were deployed in Venezuela to assure Hugo Chávez’s victory, and that they have subsequently been used elsewhere to meddle with election results?

Speaking to Glenn Beck on Friday, Powell described what has just happened as “a global criminal conspiracy” that involves China, our own intelligence services, and various European countries. Beck was right that if even 25 percent of what Powell alleges is true, it would count as perhaps “the biggest” such crime in history. If.

The pressure to make these allegations disappear is enormous. Lawyers as well as front-line election canvassers working for Trump campaign have been doxxed, harassed, threatened. Several firms, demonstrating the courage and independent spirit for which establishment bureaucrats are famous, have withdrawn their services. Beck noted that Facebook had demonetized his show for the crime of carrying, without comment, the Giuliani-Powell-Ellis press conference from November 19. What are they afraid of?

Dominion was scheduled to answer questions from Pennsylvania lawmakers a couple of days ago. Company officials backed out at the last moment. Why? What were they afraid of?

Meanwhile, Powell promises that her team will begin making evidence of their claims available as early as this week. Her team has suits teed-up in all the swing states and hundreds of affidavits to back them up. Of course, an affidavit is just a sworn statement. It might or might not be true. To verify would, I believe, require further evidence. Does Powell have that evidence? She says she does. For now, though, we are all caught in a postmodern version of a Beckett play, Waiting for Sidney. Will she arrive?

Many big claims have been made, and not only by Sidney Powell. Another lawyer, the celebrated Lin Wood, has joined the fight. Like Powell, he believes that Trump won in “a landslide,” by “millions of votes” that, were the ballots accurately counted, would deliver Trump the popular vote as well as some 400 electoral votes. A resident of Georgia, he has just filed suit there.

One commentator who knows Powell weighed in on the state of play, noting that he believes Powell. He believes her and her fellow attorneys partly because of the abundant circumstantial evidence of voter fraud, partly because if she and her colleagues are wrong, or are deceiving us, the penalties would be severe.

“If these charges are false,” he noted, “their careers are finished.”

If defamation lawsuits get launched—and I don’t see how Dominion has any choice but to file them, or go bankrupt—Sidney Powell could lose her house and her license to practice law. She’d be a pauper. The same is true of Ellis, Giuliani, and anyone else on the president’s team. But only if the charges are unsupported and untrue.

That’s my emphasis, Kemo Sabe: only if the charges are unsupported and untrue.

I really do not know what is going to happen. The clock is ticking, loudly. Sometimes it seems that Trump would need a miracle akin to the “miracle of the lightning” or the “miracle of the rain” that saved Marcus Aurelius and his generals in their battles against revolting German tribes in the early 170s AD. In one case, a Roman army was besieged by the Iazyges when a bolt of lightning destroyed the Iazyges’ siege works and the Romans rallied. In the other, the Romans were surrounded by the Quadi and cut off from fresh water. In the dreadful summer heat, they were about to succumb when the heavens opened and a downpour snatched them from ignominious defeat. Those dei ex machina were stunning, unpredictable, salvific.

Can Donald Trump count on something similar? No. Could it nonetheless happen? You betcha.


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Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined…. The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun.”
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Waiting for Sidney...

Good article.

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While all of y'all constitutional scholars and media investigators are getting all wound up, this mere American citizen is focused on this little phrase by our founding fathers "consent of the governed".

Pontificate all you want, but this is all that matters.

Of course "consent of the governed" is all that matters. That's the entire point of "free and fair elections".
It's also the reason for these discussions about election integrity and possible Constitutional remedies to the fraud and the media cover-up.



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-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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another example of a Smartmatic employee finding his way to the U.S.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.c...tions-administrator/

Texas County Goes Blue for the First Time Since 1964 After Hiring former Executive with Smartmatic as Elections Administrator

This year Tarrant County turned blue for the first time since the 1960s.

Heider Garcia is the Tarrant County Elections Administrator. He was hired in 2018. He previously worked for Smartmatic for 12 years. He received his engineering degree in Venezuela in 2003. In 2010, He testified during a fraud investigation into the Smartmatic software in the Philippines election.

Last year in 2019, Tarrant county received new election machines.


Heider Garcia:

Elections Administrator Tarrant County Feb 2018 - Present

Elections Manager Placer County Apr 2016 - Feb 2018 1 year 11 months Auburn, California

Smartmatic 12 yrs 10 mos

- Panama
- Caracas, Venezuela

University of Simon Bolivar 1996-2003

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before anyone says "oh no, Gateway Pundit", identify anything above that is not true.
 
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Dinesh D’Souza Asks Some Simple, Albeit Brutally Obvious, Questions...
Posted on November 21, 2020 by sundance

Dinesh D’Souza cuts through some of the chaff and countermeasures deployed by Tucker Carlson and asks a transparently obvious question: Are U.S. ballot counting machines capable of being manipulated? That baseline question is not dependent on any answer within a court or Trump campaign team filing. That question is simply a matter of investigative journalism finding out… but they are disinterested.

If the U.S. uses election machinery that is capable of being manipulated, that alone should initiate a serious line of inquiry about why such a function would even be present. Why would any ballot counting machine even need to have a feature to shift votes or change outcomes? The brutally obvious questions sit in the corner of the room like an 800/lb gorilla the media pretend isn’t there. WATCH:

The Carlson Vs. Powell Feud Reveals A Larger Failure No One Seems to Be Talking About

The dispute between Tucker Carlson and Sidney Powell points to a larger failure—the failure of the media to do anything resembling investigative journalism on this or any other story.



https://theconservativetreehou...y-obvious-questions/



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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