Snipped from jstex56's post:

SCIF stands for Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility, and it is where the most sensitive classified material is kept and story (*stored, edited by me). SCIFs strictly bar all electronic equipment and require all people place their phones in lockers before entering.

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Originally posted by vinnybass:
SCIF stands for Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility, and it is where the most sensitive classified material is kept and story. SCIFs strictly bar all electronic equipment and require all people place their phones in lockers before entering.

Yes. Sorry Para, I sometimes forget that most people don’t know about them.

Pronounced “Skiff”.

If you’ve ever watched NCIS, and they badge into that special room where they video teleconference from, that’s a SCIF.

It’s virtually a mortal sin to be caught inside one with a Fitbit, smartphone, iPod, any gadget.

We periodically have someone screw up and bring their device in the SCIF. It's ALWAYS reported, device is ALWAYS taken, and often not returned. It's 50/50 if you get paperwork afterwards. Bringing any transmitting device into a SCIF is a big deal.

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Originally posted by arabiancowboy:
We periodically have someone screw up and bring their device in the SCIF. It's ALWAYS reported, device is ALWAYS taken, and often not returned. It's 50/50 if you get paperwork afterwards. Bringing any transmitting device into a SCIF is a big deal.

or thumb drive, or memory card, or just about any other electronic device. If it can record, store, copy or transmit data, it's a no-go in a SCIF.

I worked in a SCIF also. My experience is similar to what others have said.

There are constant warnings about bringing a cell phone into the facility. Rarely, very rarely, someone would say "oh shit" and realize they had a device that was prohibited. That was always addressed immediately.

If it was an honest mistake and the person had a clean security record, they would typically be written up in some form but not too serious a penalty.

Although I never saw it happen, I would expect someone who did it 2 or 3 times would lose their clearance for carelessness.

I never saw anyone actually try to use a cell phone in a SCIF. The other personnel would likely go into shock seeing that.

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from Nov 2016

https://nypost.com/2016/11/06/...lassified-materials/

As secretary of state, Hillary Clinton routinely asked her maid to print out sensitive government emails and documents — including ones containing classified information — from her house in Washington, DC, emails and FBI memos show. But the housekeeper lacked the security clearance to handle such material.

In fact, Marina Santos was called on so frequently to receive emails that she may hold the secrets to emailgate — if only the FBI and Congress would subpoena her and the equipment she used.

Clinton entrusted far more than the care of her DC residence, known as Whitehaven, to Santos. She expected the Filipino immigrant to handle state secrets, further opening the Democratic presidential nominee to criticism that she played fast and loose with national security.

Clinton would first receive highly sensitive emails from top aides at the State Department and then request that they, in turn, forward the messages and any attached documents to Santos to print out for her at the home.

Santos also had access to a highly secure room called an SCIF (sensitive compartmented information facility) that diplomatic security agents set up at Whitehaven, according to FBI notes from an interview with Abedin.

From within the SCIF, Santos — who had no clearance — “collected documents from the secure facsimile machine for Clinton,” the FBI notes revealed.

Just how sensitive were the papers Santos presumably handled? The FBI noted Clinton periodically received the Presidential Daily Brief — a top-secret document prepared by the CIA and other US intelligence agencies — via the secure fax.

2340 said:
((Personally, I hope her fate gets far worse (debarred, divorced, and imprisoned is a good start) and that she ends up sleeping under a bridge with a busted shopping cart holding her possessions. But I'm confident that prospect wasn't part of her decision making process.))

Actually I think that's a little harsh. You hope her shopping cart is busted? Have you no pity? The rest is good though.

Strzok could have stepped outside the SCIF to place a call, then put his cell back in the locker. If so, his text message would be reasonably accurate.

The Grassley memo reportedly says the Senate Judiciary Comm is looking at Jonathan Winer, formerly of State Dept. The State Dept is also the next focus of Devin Nunes.

Jonathan Winer responds in an article he wrote for Wash Post

another big twist in the story. Some of the same old players pop up

https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.dff01659f753

Devin Nunes is investigating me. Here’s the truth. by Jonathan Winer

for the moment, just leaving the link.

this is pretty convoluted but it says a report got passed like this:

Cody Shearer (long time Clinton dirty tricks operator) to

Sid Blumenthal (long time Clinton dirty tricks operator) to

Jonathan Winer (former State Dept) to

Christopher Steele, who then passed it to the FBI

Jonathan Winer was in the Bill Clinton State Dept. He left after Clinton's last term.

Winer meets Steele in 2009

In 2013 Winer goes back to State Dept at the request of John Kerry

Winer provides Victoria Nuland (State Dept) reports from Steele about Russia

Winer gives over 100 Steele reports to the State Dept Russia experts.

Remember Steele left MI6 in 2009

The dossier is almost 2 years old (first report was 20 June 2016). And we never heard a word that Steele was supplying State Dept w Russia reports.

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Originally posted by c1steve:
Strzok could have stepped outside the SCIF to place a call, then put his cell back in the locker. If so, his text message would be reasonably accurate.

While certainly possible, the wording is interesting though.

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“We’re in Jims SCIF.”

Emphasis, mine.

How can these people be so mind boggingly stupid to transmit these things over unencrypted text or email.

How are these texts popping up? Saved on phones? Seized in mid air by spy/intel agencies and stored?

Cause they didn't think they'd get caught.

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Originally posted by chongosuerte:
How can these people be so mind boggingly stupid to transmit these things over unencrypted text or email.

How are these texts popping up? Saved on phones? Seized in mid air by spy/intel agencies and stored?

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Originally posted by chongosuerte:
How are these texts popping up? Saved on phones? Seized in mid air by spy/intel agencies and stored?

These are government issued devices/phones, all correspondence is required to be archived. It is supposed to be captured by the issuing agency using various methods/software.

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Originally posted by lkdr1989:
Cause they didn't think they'd get caught.

As bad as it all is, that part right there really bothers me. They were so confident that what they were doing would never see the light of day, that were would be zero oversight into all of this. They thought they had it in the bag! What they did was beyond wrong, but they did it with arrogance and malice to boot.

The FBI and DOJ, and any other government agency packed with Obama era appointees and hires all need to be cleaned out.

Thanks to those who have personal experience in this area, your credibility adds to my shock at their outrageous behavior.

The building I used to work in had 30 or more SCIFs. Every single one looked very similar to this (random pic off the internet, not mine):

You can't "not know", or "forget".

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Originally posted by sdy:

Santos also had access to a highly secure room called an SCIF (sensitive compartmented information facility) that diplomatic security agents set up at Whitehaven, according to FBI notes from an interview with Abedin.

From within the SCIF, Santos — who had no clearance — “collected documents from the secure facsimile machine for Clinton,” the FBI notes revealed.

Just how sensitive were the papers Santos presumably handled? The FBI noted Clinton periodically received the Presidential Daily Brief — a top-secret document prepared by the CIA and other US intelligence agencies — via the secure fax.

Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
Why, if it prosper, none dare call it treason. --- Sir John Harington

Rachel Brand, associate attorney general in the Department of Justice, is stepping down from her position, Fox News has confirmed. Brand, the No. 3 official in the DOJ, will be leaving following a nine-month tenure in the role.

A friend of Brand’s says Rachel was “not looking to leave,” but was approached by a Fortune 500 company with a “dream job.”

News of Brand’s departure was first reported by The New York Times.

In the line of succession, Brand has been behind Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. Rosenstein is overseeing Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. She was in line to oversee the investigation if Rosenstein stepped down.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions recused himself from the Russia inquiry.

Currie Gunn, Brand’s assistant, has also left the department, according to The Times.

Link


Hoo boy! This may not be good. Confirming her replacement is going to touch off an all hands no holds barred war.

I don't watch Hannity very often but I've tuned in tonight. He's laying it out and observes correctly that it's nearly impossible to keep up with all of this. Man oh man. "Watergate on steroids", as he put it.

I have a good friend of mine who works at electric boat. From what she tells me, she can have her phone at her desk, however if she enters the manufacturing facility or anywhere with a window to the manufacturing facility her phone is not allowed. No tolerance, instant firing and questioning by DOD.

Diane Feinstein has refuted the Grassley memo.

Here is her statement:

https://www.feinstein.senate.g...eferral-analysis.pdf

I have gone thru it and compared to Grassley memo.

Here is the key to why Grassley is saying that Steele should be investigated:

The Isikoff report of 23 Sept 2016 is critical to this issue.

Steele briefed Isikoff. We know that. Isikoff admitted it. Isikoff published his story.

Grassley says that in the FISA application the FBI says Steele briefed Mother Jones in late October 2016. Because of the October brief, the FBI suspended its relationship w Steele.

The dates are essential to understand the trick that was played. Since the FBI said Steele talked to the press for the first time in October , they said Steele did not share dossier info w Isikoff for his September report.

Then the FBI said the Isikoff story and the dossier corroborated each other.

That is it. That is the deceitful trick.

That is why Grassley says at the end of his memo: DoJ has to determine if Steele lied to the FBI or if "the FBI's representations to the court were in error."

Grassley is saying what was presented to the court was not true. He is politely saying there are 2 possibilities:

1) Steele lied to FBI that he did not brief Isikoff. Thus the FBI incorrectly thought the 2 documents were independent, or

2) The FBI knew Steele had talked to Isikoff, and they lied to the court

If you read Feinsteins rebuttal, keep the above in mind. Almost everything Feinstein says is smoke to obscure

If option 1) above is true, the FBI exhibited gross incompetence.

No wonder the FBI doesn't want this to come out.

They were either liars or grossly incompetent.

Actually I think the proper evaluation for this matter, is that they were both.