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This video touches on the flooding, but it's more about the deteriorating relationship between the CCP and the US. The release of the simulation is interesting. Three Gorges Dam Collapse Simulation Goes Viral; China Retaliates on US Consulate;Slave-Free Company "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Here's an article that doesn't really provide any new info, but does have a couple nice overhead shots of 3 Gorges Dam & a second smaller one 16 miles downstream as jaaron 11 was referring to earlier. The city of Yichang is adjacent to the smaller downstream dam(Gezhouba). Yichang has been flooded pretty heavily this season, Wuhan is even further downstream from Yichang. https://scitechdaily.com/exces...er-dams-spill-water/ <>< America, Land of the Free - because of the Brave | |||
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Here’s a snapshot of the current weather situation. It sure appears like a Texas sized storm is headed their way. The dam is situated in the upper right hand corner of the pic near the city of Zigui. Should make for an interesting next few days regarding the dam. | |||
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A poster translated some of the video simulation of the dam rupturing and has a list of downstream cities & population affected - worst case.
Tongling 1.6 million, Wuhu 3.69 million, Ma'anshan 2.26 million, Nanjing 8.43 million, Yichang 4.13 million, Jingzhou 6.37 million, Yueyang 5.93 million, Xianning 2.53 million, Wuhan 11.2 million, Xiaogan 4.87 million, Huanggang 6.33 million, ‘Ezhou 1 million, Huangshi 2.45 million, Jiujiang 4.89 million, ‘Anqing 4.58 million, Chizhou 1.43 million <>< America, Land of the Free - because of the Brave | |||
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It's one of those things where it's on such a massive scale that it's really hard to comprehend. Have they done any evacuations at all? I know that's a lot of people to move but I feel like there's been enough time to at least try something. | |||
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Agreed, I've both heard the horror stories and seen news of U.S. cities trying to evacuate during hurricanes. The number of Chinese citizens in the path of this thing + the speed of which it could occur is frightening. Found a paper on the dam construction from Science Direct https://www.sciencedirect.com/...ii/S2095809916311687 Very heavy rains expected in during next Wed-Fri, the second phase of severe weather was what caused the deformation, if the weathers rolls in as bad as expected they will cite that as phase 3. Edit: the Science Direct site is opening super slow - I have a pdf of the article if it cant be retrieved - can share by email <>< America, Land of the Free - because of the Brave | |||
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There's a good article by Dennis Wong with some excellent graphics published today at South China Morning Post, https://multimedia.scmp.com/in...na-floods/index.html that does a nice job of illustrating what has happened and its effects on China. Here's a brief intro, with more of the story and images at the link above: *** China’s worst floods in decades By Dennis Wong Published July 27, 2020 Heavy rains are putting the Yangtze River at risk of repeating the devastating floods of 1998 which left more than 4,000 people dead and 14 million homeless. The latest natural disaster comes in the wake of the Covid-19 pandemic and an escalating trade war with the US. The Yangtze River is the longest river in Asia and China’s most important waterway, with some 175 cities located near its banks. As well as being home to a number of multinational companies, the prosperous Yangtze River Basin is a powerhouse of industrial output, generating nearly half of the country’s GDP. High-risk flood regions The middle and lower reaches of the river are vulnerable to flooding, spilling over their banks every summer. By contrast, the upper river basin flows through mountainous regions and the steep slope of the riverbed makes it far less prone to floods. Floods large enough to overflow the dykes have caused several disasters in the past. Discounting famines and pandemics, the 1931 Central China floods are generally considered the deadliest natural disaster of the 20th century. More than 140,000 people drowned with at least 3.7 million dying over the nine months that followed. Until the Three Gorges Dam project was completed in 2009, provinces along the river mainly relied on reinforced embankments, reservoirs and floodwater storage areas to control flooding. Less than 20 years after the dam’s completion, China is experiencing its worst floods in decades, raising questions about the dam’s efficacy and whether the massive structure itself is at risk after weeks of devastating floods since June. Article continues at link above. *** "Aut viam inveniam aut faciam (I will either find a way or make one)." -- Hannibal Barca | |||
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The article above included a graphic with this info: Area of reservoir, stretching from the dam to Chongqing Capacity: 39.3 billion cubic metres Length: 660km The top of the dam: 185m above sea level Maximum reservoir water level: 175m above sea level But it didn't say how high the water was or had been at the dam. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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It says it right below the graphic:
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The Dennis Wong article is very good, lots of great detail. The reports I saw yesterday put levels at >160
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^^^ OK. So it's still at least 10 meters below what they call Maximum. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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I looked again, should've included an earlier update from this morning - seems levels are rising a bit. Re-posting to clarify my last post. Agreed that its still below what they consider Max. Distracted atm, sorry.
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an old buddy is living and working in Singapore. He sends this 16:00 video current update of the flood status. There is one advertisement into the video about the 4:00 mark or so, I just skipped past it. More detailed with maps, photos & graphics than I've seen. https://phibetaiota.net/2020/0...d-grain-supply-1016/ **************~~~~~~~~~~ "I've been on this rock too long to bother with these liars any more." ~SIGforum advisor~ "When the pain of staying the same outweighs the pain of change, then change will come."~~sigmonkey | |||
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And locusts are now following the floods in from west to east? If the people and government of the PRC haven't figured out that Mother Nature's given them fair warning to pick up and shift, then I don't know what it'll take. Where will they go? Over the next two tallest ridgelines to the north or south, whatever is or isn't there. Hell, they're bound to still have a few ghost cities that the flooding won't reach; maybe they can finally populate the durn things. In the shorter term, though, it's gonna be interesting to see how Xi and his cronies take Trump's insistence that the doesn't want a China Trade deal as badly anymore. The US and Canada are the logical sources for the crop foods China needs; they can be bought elsewhere but if people know China's frozen out of buying in North America then the prices China will pay for grain will be up in nosebleed territory for at least a couple of years. | |||
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I don't see how that matters really as it's a global grain market. If they buy from South America instead of us for example, whoever WAS going to buy from South America will essentially buy from us instead. ---------------------------------- "These things you say we will have, we already have." "That's true. I ain't promising you nothing extra." | |||
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The flooding cuts that portion of the demand that would be met in the PRC; that demand then has to be satisfied elsewhere. If the PRC has fewer markets it can buy in, then it'll pay more because only a fraction of the global market is open to it. If that fraction of the global market that China cannot buy from just happens to have the efficiency that farmers have in North America, then the PRC's buying at the highest rate from the least efficient producers which not only increases costs but restricts the supply available to them. Others may be able to buy more cheaply but China will pay more for lower quality grain - which will definitely have an effect on China. | |||
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Regarding the elevation of water retained at Three Gorges, an article I saw over the weekend said that the water level had actually dropped a few meters (6, I think) since the peak following Flood No. 2 since the floodgates have been kept open at their maximum flow. With what appears to be Flood No. 3 now dumping water upstream, it was expected to start rising again, which may be reflected in Dennis Wong’s report. *** "Aut viam inveniam aut faciam (I will either find a way or make one)." -- Hannibal Barca | |||
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Aye, levels currently reported at 161.99 so its climbing a little bit today alone, as StarTraveler noted, the new rain is gonna be the real test. Predictions of 40 inches Wed-Fri in Chengdu, upstream. <>< America, Land of the Free - because of the Brave | |||
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