The vp racing cans are great and you get no smell with them. I'd keep them full every hurricane season and once a month dump them in your car and refill them, that way it's always fresh.
You can get portable marine fuel tanks in any size you want and they also do a good job at keeping the fuel vapors from leaking out. But keep in mind, anything more than a 10 gallon tank is hard to carry. They make a 25 gallon tank on wheels called a gas buddy that marine stores sell and it's another option. I wouldn't store gas under my house. I would try to build a small, vented structure to store them far away from houses, unless you have a well vented garage to keep them in.
Engineering is towards air quality, not storage. The alcohol greatly reduces shelf life because it is hygroscopic.
That being said, I just burned up some fuel I stored in 2013. It has been sitting in my shed for the last four years, and it was perfectly fine. The secret? I store it in actual Nazi jerry cans, which are completely air tight, and I use clear gas (non-ethanol). Also, I double dose with Stabil, and I drop in 8oz of Seafoam in every can. The fuel looked, smelled, and worked great.
Here's a reproduction NATO can that is the same style as my 1944 Wehrmacht cans.
Gasoline will store longer than most people think if it is kept in an airtight container and is properly treated. I'm not convinced that plastic cans provide the proper amount of seal that a metal can provides. I have enough VP Racing cans to carry 55 gallons, but I use them to take fuel to the lake for the boat. When I want to store fuel long-term, I turn to my metal German cans.
Yes, metal cans are the key to long term gas storage and air tight. I think that is only what keeps the fuel you buy at Home Depot last a long time.
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Been meaning to buy a set of 4 metal jerry cans for a few years now but haven't pulled the trigger. Surplus deals seem to have mostly dried up short of a local find.
The consensus from the off-roaders I've talked to is that the cheap NATO-style cans aren't worth the time: Chinese-made with thin metal, lousy welds, and no safety testing.
European-made jerry cans are what you want. There are two big manufacturers, Valpro from Latvia and GELG from Poland. Wavian cans are made by Valpro. You can see some of the testing Valpro does in this video.
Atlantic British LTD has a set of 4 Wavian 20L (~5 gal) cans for 154.95+shipping (total for me was $205.84).
Deutsche Optik has a set of 4 20L cans for $156, free shipping. I have not confirmed it with them, but based on the description, these are almost certainly GELG-made.
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This is exactly what I do. Just used about 15 gallons in the generator. The other 15 gallons I had on hand will go in one of the vehicles. It is an inexpensive and workable system.
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I'm going to suggest a completely different path for the OP. I'm making two assumptions:
My coworker's husband works for the power company and turned me onto the tri-fuel conversion kit from the linked manufacturer. Let's compare our two houses during Hurricane Ike:
On a side note, I've since switched to Mobil 1's 15000 mile extended synthetic motor oil and go 48 hours between oil changes. A lot less motor oil to keep on hand and dispose of.
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Great link! I really don't need any more, but the hoarder in me wants more. Got to stay one step ahead of the helpful Feds and get some before they ban them.
That little 5L can would be a great carry around can. It's adorable.
Except diesel stored in warm environments gets algae growth unless treated with a biocide.
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I also recommend metal NATO fuel cans (I use Wavian/Valpro cans...made in Eastern Europe).
Do NOT buy the cheap, Chicom copies.
Also, If you dig around on the web, there are non-US spec fuel nozzles available for the Wavian cans.
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Propane/natural gas is also much easier on the motor oil in your engine as it burns very clean. A propane generator is the way to go in my opinion.
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Thanks for the input. This is not for a generator. I have a standby generator at home hooked up to 1000 gallon propane tank. My main issue during this hurricane was finding gas during the evacuation. I had a full tank but I was worried that there could be traffic and gas might not be easy to come by. I am trying to figure out how to store gas at home so that I can take it with me when I have to evacuate to Eliminate that concern. Also, now even after this storm gas is hard to come by. Supply is short and lines are very very long. It would be nice to have some gas at home and not worry about standing in long lines.
As for storage, I don't have any outbuildings at my house. It's garage, crawlspace or who knows? It's only a quarter acre lots there's not a lot of room to work with here.
Like has been said, those NATO jerry cans are super air tight. They are so tight that you can throw them on their side and nothing will leak out. They're fantastic. Not cheap, but well worth $150 for four and the ability to store 80 liters.
Be aware, though. They are so airtight, that if you overfill them, and then they warm up, they will be very difficult to open because of the pressure. And then when you do open them, they will volcano fuel everywhere. They hold just 20 liters, no more. The air gap at the top is a must.
To me this is a testament to just how airtight they are.
Yes, but you can use biocides to keep it from growing algae and you can also use a filter like a racer and filter the algae out and still run on 5 year old diesel.
You only need to change the oil on a generator every 200 hours or once a year. Every day is total overkill. On yachts we get 10,000-20,000 hours out of generators. Continuous duty ones (run 24/7) last twice the amount of hours.
If you have city gas, or a way to store a lot of propane that's the way to go as it never goes bad.
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Not to be too simple, but keep your eyes on the news and weather. When a bad storm starts up in the Atlantic, go buy some gas. You should have 7 to 10 days of warning. If your SUV has a luggage rack, you might be able to attach a 5 gallon can up there. If not, leave early, a day or 2 before everyone else.
Hmm, I do just about the same thing, always keep all vehicles filled, + 20 gallons of ethanol free, double Marine Stabil, + a shot of octane boost. Honestly, I've used that stuff at nearly two years old and it's never failed me (yet...)
Cheap plastic garden storage box / pool box would do. Just to keep sun off to store your gas cans outside.
There are lots of ways to store gas, and there are lots of different gasses that have various storage life's. For a vehicle where you can rotate the simple and cheap strategy is gas cans (many good suggestions here) and burn it off once in awhile. That doesn't work for me and personally I pick a different strategy and buy gas that is already packaged in cans with long shelf lives. The normal method for me is to buy race gasoline but regular unleaded is available that way and will have years of shelf life. I've used 15gal drums from 2005 without issues. 5, 15 and 55 are the normal sizes.
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here's the link I used https://swisslink.com/jerry-ca...-5-3-gallon-can.html
recently spend considerable time researching for proper Jeep-mount reliable etc.
IF what I read is true, there's considerable difference in the Chinese vs Swiss cans, besides the price.
And Wavian supplies 2 different spouts, one the USDOT CALTRAN etc certified, and one that actually works resembling more the one Grandpa used.
I've had old used Jerry cans for decades, that I just no longer trust. Plus, the donkey-dick stye screw in spouts rotted away.
There's some impressive Jeep-cliche new design 'roto pax' spendy but very impressive mounting system adaptability
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Good advice on the gas cans. They are airtight (there is a link already) As said above: DON'T CHEAP OUT AND BUY CHINESE CANS THAT LOOK LIKE JERRY CANS. Unless you want to see 5 gallons of gas leaked out onto the ground, I got one of those stoires. Non-ethanol is the way to go and stabil or PRI-G is a good idea. I put a tag on my cans with a date and rotate every 6 months. Here's a list of over 700 stations that sell non-ethanol in FL. https://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=FL
Just change the last 2 digits with your state if you don't live in FL. My state isn't close to complete, but you can add stations as you find them and it will get you started.
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