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Muzzle flash aficionado |
I find it troubling, too--I live here! flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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Even in Texas, law enforcement ultimately answers to politicians. | |||
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Don't large public protests need to be approved? And would they be approved if they had to close off roads, at least w/o detours planned in advance? It's bullshit to have BLM close of roads anytime they feel like. Nobody should have to tolerate that. We need to start string up politicians and LE leadership that allow it. BLM is founded on a false premise. They do not get a pass. They SHALL NOT PASS. Might as well just let ISIS protest in our streets. Or the cartels to allow for open borders. Are asians going to start block streets - ALM against the blacks? What a fucking pandora's box the shitheads in gov have opened. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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Remember when people objected to the former President allegedly referring to certain countries as "Shitholes"? They openly said it was wrong to disparage places run by warlords, without the benefit of a credible legal system and the rule of law. Well, welcome to Mogadishu! "I'm not fluent in the language of violence, but I know enough to get around in places where it's spoken." | |||
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Laughing my ass off at the fuckers yelling at the cop to "do your job!" once confronted. Um..... if the cop was doing his job you dumbasses would be arrested and out of the street. So fuck off. _________________________ You do NOT have the right to never be offended. | |||
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Info Guru |
Time for a live look to see how this 'Defund the NYPD' thing is going: https://twitter.com/Breaking91.../1391920987239759876 It was all so unpredictable! “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Money to fix a policy problem? Ain’t gonna work. NY is gonna pay more for less. They voted for it. Deal with it. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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Political Cynic |
In NYC most if the victims will be Democrats - they’re simply getting what they voted for and as someone once said - I think it was that bastard Kenyan - elections do in fact have consequences | |||
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semi-reformed sailor |
It takes almost a year (on the streets-not counting academy time) for an officer to be autonomous from his graduation date....then there’s the city council and the “defund the police” people and backing from the actual public who will back them and then most importantly the backing of the DAs office who actually brings cases to court.....then you gotta get juries who will convict people for the actual laws on the books...... Nope NYC, you have about a ten year long slog of it to get back to what it was years ago.....years ago . And if you want it to be like it was under Mayor Giuliani- it’s at least 15 years out. If things change tonight. "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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It seems any defund the police, now refund the police initiatives have an end goal of neutered local public security being replaced with an national, federalized force. I have to look at de Commio's move here with that in mind. Set the controls for the heart of the Sun. | |||
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Be not wise in thine own eyes |
Missed this from Plano, TX protesters blocking traffic. One of them pulled a gun on the guy upset that Police were not clearing the road. “Plano, TX police officer allows armed left-wing militia to illegally block traffic, reprimands driver who attempts to clear road, defend himself.” “The man who attempted to clear the road was doxxed by leftists and charged while the law-breaking traffic-blockers walk free!” The man in blue is being charged with “assault with contact” because he slapped a hand away from his face. The protester with the gun is not being charged, in fact none of the protesters are being charged. Read the Texas Attorney Generals letter at this link. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton Gets Involved After Plano Police Officer Allows BLM-Antifa to Illegally Block Traffic, Brandish Weapon “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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Frangas non Flectes |
Yeah, I noticed that. The black guy in the black plate carrier in the background of the pistol also looked like he was trying to draw a concealed pistol in the frames leading up to that screenshot. There were videos last year of armed protestors blocking city streets and leveling guns at drivers trying to get through. I don't recall hearing anything coming out of that. Really spooky times we're in. Another year of this shit and we're likely to see good people totally lose their cool in spectacular fashion. You can only push people so far. Killdozer comes to mind. ______________________________________________ Carthago delenda est | |||
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That’s not a gun, it’s a taser | |||
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Be not wise in thine own eyes |
Are you certain “Chief”? From the linked article. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton got involved since the Plano police chief refused to arrest the lawbreakers. “I instructed one of my top deputies to contact the Plano Police Chief to get more details. What he heard paints an even worse picture that the video alone depicts,” Ken Paxton said in a statement. Paxton said the police chief told his deputy several different versions of what actually happened. “First, the Chief told my deputy that while the weapon drawn wasn’t a pistol, it was, in fact, a “pepper ball gun.” In a separate conversation, the Chief claimed it was a “taser.” In a recent Facebook post, the Department is now saying it was a “electronic control device.” Paxton said. “Whatever it was, the police declined to pursue the leftist who brandished the weapon, and no charges are being pressed against him.” Paxton continued, “Second, the Chief was anxious to excuse the rioters. “You have to understand the situation.” urged the Chief. “We have to negotiate with these people. Do you expect us to mass arrest the protesters? You know that’s not going to happen.” “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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Made from a different mold |
Would you be willing to bet your life on that? That mother fucker needed to have his god damn head canoed. If police are present, why draw anything unless to further antagonize? ___________________________ No thanks, I've already got a penguin. | |||
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Raptorman |
These authorities aren't stupid. They know exactly what they are doing. ____________________________ Eeewwww, don't touch it! Here, poke at it with this stick. | |||
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Ammoholic |
At this point, fuck it. Defund the police. They aren't doing their job anyways. Let the purge happen. All these people screaming to Defund the police will be begging for them back after a week. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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I am disappointed that this happened in Texas and understand the emotions, but the big guy in traffic was going to start a fight and probably would have had his ass stomped. Officers needed to de-fuse that encounter and get him the hell out of there-they didn't have enough manpower to dominate that crowd. Nothing good could have come of a meelee out there with good potential for people getting hurt or shot. They can talk about criminal charges later. I don't know anything about that chief but sometimes you have to let things cool off if you don't have the manpower or support to dominate the situation. I said from the start, if the departments in Portland and Seattle and Minneapolis, etc, had pushed the mutual aid button and brought in a couple thousand officers on day 1, the summer of arson and looting could have been brought to a sudden halt. But there was no political backbone from local elected officials to do what needed to be done. Failure to support first responders is unconscionable. The arsonist media cowed elected officials into inaction, so these BLM and Antifa anarchist assholes could run amok without consequence. The Governor of Florida has balls, as does the legislature and the sheriffs. DeSantis has told Antifa to stay out of Florida, and passed laws with teeth. Cities/Counties that try to de-fund police will be penalized. He gave all first responders a $1000 bonus and lit the Governor's mansion blue for Police Week. Such a contrast to weak kneed politicians I see elsewhere. Bottom line for law enforcement is and always has been, every community gets precisely the quality of police service they deserve. CMSGT USAF (Retired) Chief of Police (Retired) | |||
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Bolt Thrower |
They are doing their job against anyone who fights back, or violates a corona edict. | |||
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Paxton's statement is toothless. It reads like something a young reporter would write up. It's got all the who, what, where's and why's but he says nothing about doing one damn thing about it. Other than sending one of his top men to interview the chief. He acts like a innocent bystander who has no power to do anything and not a Attorney General of the state who swings a pretty big hammer. "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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