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Don't forget she'd be coughing on her way out.  SIGforum: For all your needs! Imagine our influence if every gun owner in America was an NRA member! Click the box>>>  | |||
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Part of this scenario is still yet to be verified, but it has now come out that the blower did indeed contact Schiff BEFORE filing the complaint. We have also confirmed that the form was definitely changed in August.  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/1...f-whistleblower.html When the walls come tumbling down... “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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bama, The "whistleblower" signed the old form with the language that hearsay could not be used in the complaint. So the "new" form came out after the complaint. The Intl IG argued that the current law did not prohibit hearsay, but the formal Intel IG form did. So the IG just rewrote the form. | |||
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| 7.62mm Crusader |
That would be some quality comedy right there. She'd be spinning out of control, cough, gag, weird facial expressions, mebby fall down..not a word from her minced meat brain would anyone care to hear. President Trump would eat her like a Scooby snack.. . Is she really still alive? You aint goin no place hagula. | |||
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This is pretty awesome. (Time coded link: https://youtu.be/MFZmDsMFjgM?t=1929) The State Department, President Trump, and Finnish President Niinistö secured the recovery of Native American remains and artifacts that were extradited to Finland many years ago. I had no idea. “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.”—H.L. Mencken | |||
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Check this nugget that just dropped...The ICIG did not even review the actual transcript of the call before determining that the complaint was 'credible'  IC Inspector General Didn’t Review Ukraine Call Before Forwarding Whistleblower Complaint “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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As long as we're fantasizing. Let her get the nomination. Spend as much money as she can and rally as many supporters as she has left and there are some. Two weeks out from the election Barr drops an indictment on her! Hell Comey unwittingly damn near did that. I thought that was so fresh when Comey thought he was helping her out by reopening the investigation only to clear her yet again. Hillary's head was spinning and spraying venom everywhere over that! "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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| The Whack-Job Whisperer  |
I disagree with Rush. The Hildabeast is done. Even the most vapid leftist I know just wants that crooked lying bitch to go away and STFU. She doesn't have any support. None. Regards 18DAI 7+1 Rounds of hope and change | |||
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It is a criminal act to leak classified information. A phone call between the President of this country and another is classified. The President had to declassify the transcript to release it to the public. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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If HRC has the sense to stay out of the 2020 race, good. However, if she's dumb enough to jump in at some point, I'll enjoy watching President Trump beat her...again. Like a rug  | |||
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If I read this correctly, the whistle blower violated FEDERAL LAW AND SHOULD NOT BE AFFORDED THE WHISTLE BLOWER ACT PROTECTIONS. Can they be charged with giving classified information to Congress without permission? BREAKING: Anti-Trump Whistleblower Colluded With House Democrats Before Filing Complaint https://thefederalist.com/2019...n0SEm3Iq8NGLPwOM-HyU An anti-Trump whistleblower at the center of ongoing Democratic efforts to impeach President Donald Trump coordinated with Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., and his Democratic staff prior to filing his whistleblower complaint, The New York Times reported on Wednesday afternoon. The bombshell report that the whistleblower and his Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) colleagues actively worked exclusively with congressional Democrats before filing the complaint raises serious questions about whether the complainant followed federal laws providing whistleblower protections for employees within the U.S. intelligence community. “Before going to Congress, the C.I.A. officer had a colleague convey his accusations to the agency’s top lawyer,” The New York Times reported. “Concerned about how that avenue for airing his allegations was unfolding, the officer then approached a House Intelligence Committee aide, alerting him to the accusation against Mr. Trump.” The New York Times noted that the anti-Trump complainant only notified the committee’s Democrats of his allegations. “The whistle-blower’s decision to offer what amounted to an early warning to the intelligence committee’s Democrats is also sure to thrust Mr. Schiff even more forcefully into the center of the controversy,” The New York Times wrote. Under federal law, whistleblowers within the intelligence community are required to report any allegations of wrongdoing to the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) in order to receive statutory whistleblower protections for their disclosures. The law does not provide any protections to employees or contractors who bypass the process required by law and go directly to Congress, nor does it provide any avenue to disclose classified information to Congress without first going through the ICIG. If the complainant or a colleague leaked classified information to Schiff or his committee, those individuals could be subject to criminal liability for illegal and unauthorized disclosure of classified information. “The employee may contact the intelligence committees directly [after filing a complaint with the inspector general] if the employee…before making such a contact, furnishes to the Director, through the Inspector General, a statement of the employee’s complaint or information and notice of the employee’s intent to contact the intelligence committees directly…and obtains and follows from the Director, through the Inspector General, direction on how to contact the intelligence committees in accordance with appropriate security practices,” the federal whistleblower law, known as the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act, or ICWPA, states. The full anti-Trump complaint, which was declassified by the president and released on September 25, included no first-hand evidence of wrongdoing by the president. Instead, it offered a litany of second-hand allegations, gossip, and hearsay, much of which was shown to be false when compared to the actual transcript of the July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky. As The Federalist first reported last week, the ICIG changed its internal rules and guidance regarding whistleblower complaints to eliminate a requirement that the complaints contain first-hand information. The ICIG confirmed that reporting on Monday when it admitted it had altered its forms and procedures after the anti-Trump complaint was filed with the ICIG. Top lawmakers in both the Senate and House sent letters to the ICIG earlier this week demanding to know precisely when the first-hand information required was discarded. Under the whistleblower law, the ICIG has near-total authority to determine how whistleblower evidence is weighed and ultimately whether complaints are considered credible. The ICIG admitted in a September 13 letter to Congress that he never reviewed the transcript of the July 25 call before determining that the anti-Trump complaint “appear[ed] credible.” “As part of its preliminary review, the ICIG did not request access to records of the President’s July 25, 2019, call with the Ukrainian President,” ICIG Michael Atkinson wrote. Both the Director of National Intelligence and the Department of Justice Office of Legal Counsel determined that the complaint was statutorily deficient and did not qualify under the law as an “urgent concern” that needed to be provided to the relevant congressional oversight committees. The communication between the whistleblower and House Democrats prior to the complaint’s filing also raises questions about whether Schiff and his committee staff coordinated with the ICIG regarding the watchdog’s whistleblower forms and guidance stating that first-hand information is required in order for the agency to properly investigate “urgent concern” complaints. The new revelations that Schiff and his staff coordinated with the anti-Trump complainant and his colleagues prior to a formal whistleblower complaint also suggest Schiff was less than truthful about his interactions with the whistleblower. On August 28, nearly two weeks before the ICIG formally informed Congress of a pending “urgent concern” whistleblower complaint from an intel operative, Schiff tweeted allegations from the complaint without disclosing their source. “Schiff was in on it and he lied about it,” a congressional G.O.P. staffer told The Federalist. “This impeachment initiative has as much genuineness as a three dollar bill.” _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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| Info Guru |
This is unraveling quickly. Suggest anyone interested go check out Sean Davis' timeline: https://twitter.com/seanmdav/with_replies The blower illegally went to Schiff BEFORE filing an official IG complaint. This means that the blower does not get whistleblower protection - you only get protection if you follow the guidelines which state that you must make a formal complaint and then there are processes you can follow if you don't think the complaint is being handled properly to go to the Congressional Oversight Committee. There is no procedure for illegally leaking classified information to the committee before a formal complaint is filed.  “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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| His diet consists of black coffee, and sarcasm.  |
I wonder if foreign officials will want to deal with us if their conversations (regardless of content) are going to be blabbed all over. Transparency is one thing, but some degree of confidentiality has to be maintained. | |||
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^^^^^^ I think Rudy is about to open up a YUGE can of whoop-ass on a whoooole bunch of Demotards and Schiff-for-brains' "whistleblower". "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
Looks like this is starting to get REAL....Entertaining!  ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Save America! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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Festina Lente |
Put the leaker-blower's head on a pike at the entrance to Congress. Pour encourager les autres, as the saying goes... NRA Life Member - "Fear God and Dreadnaught" | |||
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^^^^^ I think I'd be just as satisfied to hear the slamming of prison cell doors in the fat faces of these Demotarded sumbitches. To the rumors about Hitlery the Hag entering the Demotard race...the Albatross of leaking Intel and Top Secret data from her private servers and computers, the Uranium 1 deal, et.al., still hangs around her neck and it's beginning to rot into a maggot-infested carcass that carries with it a heinous odor. Ain't no way on God's green earth President Trump would let her get away with any of her bullshit. RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!! It would be a blood-bath...and EVERYONE knows it. "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
LMFAO!!!! | |||
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Flashback: Adam Schiff Claimed ‘We Have Not Spoken Directly with the Whistleblower’ https://www.breitbart.com/poli...h-the-whistleblower/ House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA) previously claimed his panel had “not spoken directly” with a federal bureaucrat alleging wrongdoing by President Donald Trump regarding Ukraine — yet a Wednesday report reveals he received an early account of the allegations from a committee staffer who spoke to the so-called “whistleblower.” The New York Times revealed the”whistleblower” — who the paper has said is a CIA officer — initially directed a colleague to discuss his allegations with the agency’s top lawyer. Shortly after, the Deep Stater contacted a House Intelligence panel aide to convey secondhand details of the Trump-Zelensky call in which the world leaders discussed U.S. military aid and the business dealings of Hunter Biden, the son of former Vice President and 2020 White House candidate Joe Biden. According to the Times, the staffer some of the officer’s concerns with Schiff but did not reveal his identity. Benny Verified account @bennyjohnson 2h2 hours ago So let me get this straight: • Schiff got a heads up from the Whistleblower before he filed his complaint • Schiff sent a staffer to Ukraine on a trip paid for by a Think Tank funded by Burisma • Schiff purposely misquoted the Ukraine Call before Congress Noticing a pattern? All this purportedly happened before the complaint was filed on August 12. However, in what appears to be a direct contradiction of the Times report, Schiff told MSNBC’s Morning Joe on September 17: “We have not spoken directly with the whistleblower.” “We would like to,” he continued. “But I’m sure the whistleblower has concerns that he has not been advised, as the law requires, by the inspector general or the Director of National Intelligence just as to how he is to communicate with Congress. In a statement, a spokesperson for Schiff attempted to downplay the Times’ revelations, saying it is common practice for whistleblowers to consult Congress as to how to proceed with a complaint. “This is a regular occurrence, given the Committee’s unique oversight role and responsibilities. Consistent with the Committee’s longstanding procedures, Committee staff appropriately advised the whistleblower to contact an Inspector General and to seek legal counsel,” Patrick Boland, Schiff’s spokesman said. “[A]t no point did the Committee review or receive the complaint in advance… The Committee did not receive the complaint until the night before the Acting Director of National Intelligence’s open hearing before the Committee.” Schiff’s own verified social media account seemingly confirmed the Times report Wednesday afternoon, writing that “staff” are supposed to give “guidance” to federal employees seeking to file complaints. Later Wednesday, President Trump responded to the Times‘ report revealing Schiff had advanced knowledge of the so-called “whistleblower” complaint, saying it shows the California Democrat is a “fraud.” “I think it’s a scandal that he knew before. I would go a step further: I think he probably helped write it,” said the president. “That whistleblower, there’s no question in my mind that some bad things have gone on and I think we’ll get to the bottom of it,” he added. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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| Festina Lente |
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