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got offered free tickets to the musical Hamilton


I was offered a pair of free tickets when it came to CA on its first go around and I refused them. Folks thought I was nuts, but they were libs who were dying to go.

A friend last week emailed me about a show in San Francisco last month. How incredibly stupid.

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Three people were injured at a San Francisco performance of the musical Hamilton last night after someone in the audience yelled out the word “Gun!” in the crowded theater.

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Early indications are that a boy in the audience had a seizure when a gunshot sound was enacted in the play, perhaps confusing the audience.

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They then panicked, sending other audience members scrambling. The on-stage cast retreated backstage.

Three people sustained non-life-threatening injuries. A woman in the audience had a heart attack and is in critical condition.

“There was no one with a gun, there were no shots fired, at the end it was a medical emergency,” said San Francisco Police Captain Renee Pagano.


https://deadline.com/2019/02/h...-injured-1202558949/



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It is a hit job on the reputation of one of our founding fathers.


It's not. He was imperfect, and the show touches on that. More so, it celebrates his contribution to the war effort, being Washington's 'right hand man.'.

Act II focuses on politics, and his role in creating the nation, battling the Jeffersonians, etc.

It also touches on his relationship with his wife, his mistress, his son, and of course Burr.

I don't think most people walk out of that show thinking they just watched a piece on how shitty Hamilton was. he wasn't made out to be the villain.


I have not seen it, but that was my general impression - the show itself is not overtly or particularly political.

I am sure that many or most of the people involved are more left leaning than we are. But, what has that got to do with the show itself? There are lefties at Nabisco, but I still buy Oreos.

It isn't even very "rap." I have seen many scenes from the show. It is very lightly rap in character - this isn't gangsta rap.

I don't much care for Broadway musicals or rap-lite, but it wouldn't be the politics of the writer, cast and crew that would keep me away. It wouldn't be the politics of the show, which I think are not particularly on display.

If my wife wanted me to go with her, I would. She has gone to see things with me that she was less interested in than I was.

I have the strong feeling that most opposed have no idea of what the show is actually like, and mostly object to what they think the politics of the people involved are.




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My wife and kids saw the show as a Christmas gift. I paid a pretty penny. All enjoyed it and we continue to enjoy the music. While none of my family are bleeding hearts, they enjoyed the show for what it is - entertaining fiction.


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It is a hit job on the reputation of one of our founding fathers.


It's not. He was imperfect, and the show touches on that. More so, it celebrates his contribution to the war effort, being Washington's 'right hand man.'.

Act II focuses on politics, and his role in creating the nation, battling the Jeffersonians, etc.

It also touches on his relationship with his wife, his mistress, his son, and of course Burr.

I don't think most people walk out of that show thinking they just watched a piece on how shitty Hamilton was. he wasn't made out to be the villain.


I have not seen it, but that was my general impression - the show itself is not overtly or particularly political.

I am sure that many or most of the people involved are more left leaning than we are. But, what has that got to do with the show itself? There are lefties at Nabisco, but I still buy Oreos.

It isn't even very "rap." I have seen many scenes from the show. It is very lightly rap in character - this isn't gangsta rap.

I don't much care for Broadway musicals or rap-lite, but it wouldn't be the politics of the writer, cast and crew that would keep me away. It wouldn't be the politics of the show, which I think are not particularly on display.

If my wife wanted me to go with her, I would. She has gone to see things with me that she was less interested in than I was.

I have the strong feeling that most opposed have no idea of what the show is actually like, and mostly object to what they think the politics of the people involved are.


The ivory tower critique is that the show makes Hamilton and other characters far more progressive than they actually were. How much of that is playwright and how much is from Chernow's book is up for debate. Angelica Schuyler was not the feminist the musical portrays. Unlike how he's portrayed in the musical Hamilton was not pro-immigrant. He was as hypocritical as many abolitionists of his day. He was an elitist who wanted the presidency to be a lifetime appointment with monarch like powers. The pro-immigrant, anti-slavery, DEMOCRACY yeah! view presented in the musical is pure fiction.
 
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It is a hit job on the reputation of one of our founding fathers.


It's not. He was imperfect, and the show touches on that. More so, it celebrates his contribution to the war effort, being Washington's 'right hand man.'.

Act II focuses on politics, and his role in creating the nation, battling the Jeffersonians, etc.

It also touches on his relationship with his wife, his mistress, his son, and of course Burr.

I don't think most people walk out of that show thinking they just watched a piece on how shitty Hamilton was. he wasn't made out to be the villain.


I have not seen it, but that was my general impression - the show itself is not overtly or particularly political.

I am sure that many or most of the people involved are more left leaning than we are. But, what has that got to do with the show itself? There are lefties at Nabisco, but I still buy Oreos.

It isn't even very "rap." I have seen many scenes from the show. It is very lightly rap in character - this isn't gangsta rap.

I don't much care for Broadway musicals or rap-lite, but it wouldn't be the politics of the writer, cast and crew that would keep me away. It wouldn't be the politics of the show, which I think are not particularly on display.

If my wife wanted me to go with her, I would. She has gone to see things with me that she was less interested in than I was.

I have the strong feeling that most opposed have no idea of what the show is actually like, and mostly object to what they think the politics of the people involved are.


The ivory tower critique is that the show makes Hamilton and other characters far more progressive than they actually were. How much of that is playwright and how much is from Chernow's book is up for debate. Angelica Schuyler was not the feminist the musical portrays. Unlike how he's portrayed in the musical Hamilton was not pro-immigrant. He was as hypocritical as many abolitionists of his day. He was an elitist who wanted the presidency to be a lifetime appointment with monarch like powers. The pro-immigrant, anti-slavery, DEMOCRACY yeah! view presented in the musical is pure fiction.


Are you telling me that Oklahoma ranch hands weren't really like Curly McClain?

That there aren't any singing lion cubs?

RIchard III didn't really offer to trade his kingdom for a horse?




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Wear your MAGA hat...that should trigger some people. Big Grin Seriously, I've heard it's decent. I just haven't looked to see if it's toured in the Houston area yet. But as another said (and I know it probably wouldn't be the same cast members), I don't appreciate how VP Pence was treated with TOTAL lack of respect when he attended, hence I won't support their "product"...I'd rather spend my hundreds seeing Chicago in concert. In all honesty, I'd say stay home where it's warm and watch "John Adams" off Amazon Prime. It was a REALLY good series. But I know your tickets are already purchased...



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Man I’d probably go. Even with the BS leftists slant and message these things can be fun from time to time. At the very least it’s an experience. I have a brother who is in the arts and we had a VERY interesting conversation on the push in Opera to remove (pretty much delete) potentially offensive productions like Madama Butterfly because of Japanese cultural appropriation (it’s a damn good opera) and fun, EXTREMELY comedic productions like The Mikado (one of my favs) because they are not pushing a message or relevant to a cause enough. This kind of propagandizing of the arts only erodes it’s support.

Hamilton could have enjoyed MUCH more success if it didn’t make a point of pushing people away. Sure, it’s been a success but by and large people in the arts are not living large...they should occasionally refrain from shooting themselves in the foot.
 
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Politics aside, I would probably relive my reaction to the play, Cats. Had free tickets and box seats so I took my teenage son. After the first ten minutes, we looked at each other and I said, "Well, I've seen enough. How about you ?" That was the end of that.
 
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Couldn't pay me enough to go to a musical of any kind. Similarly, the minute singing starts in a movie, I am out of there. After 21 years of marriage, my wife knows better than even ask. She is more than welcome to take a friend or our daughter, but don't make me feel bad for saying he'll no.

PS. Not one penny of my money goes to Hollywood (no theatre, no video, no HBO, no pay per view, etc...), Broadway, or entertainers like Spingsteen. I am not paying them to attack my rights.
 
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I would much rather go see Shakespeare than a musical.

The only 2 musical movies I can stand are Rocky Horror Picture Show and Little Shop of Horrors. Most animated Disney movies are watchable, too.

Musicals just don't hold my interest and are downright annoying at times. Hamilton doesn't seem that interesting.


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OTOH, the success of the musical saved Hamilton’s portrait on the ten dollar bill. Big Grin


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The story is basically trying to remind people about Hamilton. He’s portrayed as the almost forgotten founding father.

The story is only political if you care about the late 1700s politics.

The music and delivery often remind me of Will Smith telling the story.

It was entertaining and overall good, but not as much as the hype would lead you to believe. The tickets are definitely overpriced.

The touring cast was more diverse.
 
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I do not believe I would go if you provided first class transportation, 5 star lodging and meals, and PAID me to see it.
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