Jonesin' for a JLC Reverso. Any of you guys ever own one?

I've had my eye on these for awhile now. An AD that I use had this come back in on trade from the original buyer right at a year. I was browsing his site and saw it sitting there. So after some negotiating and a trade in on a Ball watch that I was hardly wearing, this beaut is mine. Merry Christmas to me!

I'm a big GO fan. Congrats!

Any thoughts, positive or negative, regarding the use of a watch winder? I like the concept of having something that would keep my automatic watches rolling while I cycle through my collection every so often. Thanks!

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Originally posted by HuskySig:
Any thoughts, positive or negative, regarding the use of a watch winder? I like the concept of having something that would keep my automatic watches rolling while I cycle through my collection every so often. Thanks!

I use one, sparingly. If I set my GMT and plan to wear it within the next few days, I put it on the winder. If I'm unlikely to wear it for several days, or a few weeks, or totally unknown, I don't. For time-only, I almost never use a winder. That said, it won't hurt it. Not if you're down with the proper interval of service.

What's the concern with using a winder long term? That you'll hit the watch's service interval sooner rather than just letting it sit statically?

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Originally posted by HuskySig:
What's the concern with using a winder long term? That you'll hit the watch's service interval sooner rather than just letting it sit statically?

The best guess answer is yes. I was once told by a watch maker/watch repairer they call them "watch grinders". They can speed up the wear and tear on the oils and parts.
In most cases, a watch serviced on a regular service scheduled, most likely will not need to have parts replaced and only need to have the movement dissembled,cleaned, oiled and reassembled.


I have a few watches that use the ETA 2824-4 movements. It was rumored at one time that if you hand wound the watch a lot over time there was a gear that would strip.
With that said the only time I use my watch winder is if I want to wear a watch with one of those movements in it. I will put the unwound watch on the winder the night before I want to wear it so the only thing I have to do the next day is set the time and date.

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Originally posted by HuskySig:
Any thoughts, positive or negative, regarding the use of a watch winder? I like the concept of having something that would keep my automatic watches rolling while I cycle through my collection every so often. Thanks!

Here is some additional info. on the subject:

https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...360003594#5360003594

^ And I opted to skip the winder for now.
The Monster is almost EDC & the other gets a shake & set if I'm putting it on.

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Originally posted by 71 TRUCK:...They can speed up the wear and tear on the oils and parts.

More accurately, they continue the wear and tear on the internals of the watch. vs. a resting (stopped) movement, which is only affected then by time itself, aging the oils and seals. I mostly agree that if you are servicing a watch as recommended (or more often if it's something special and you're daily wearing it), it's a non-issue.

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Originally posted by r0gue:

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Originally posted by 71 TRUCK:...They can speed up the wear and tear on the oils and parts.

More accurately, they continue the wear and tear on the internals of the watch. vs. a resting (stopped) movement, which is only affected then by time itself, aging the oils and seals. I mostly agree that if you are servicing a watch as recommended (or more often if it's something special and you're daily wearing it), it's a non-issue.

Yes, thats what I meant


Some on the watch forums will say not to send a watch in for service till it is not running properly anymore.
Some say treat it just like you service your car and do preventive service. It's a toss up because unless something needs to be replaced the cost is the same.
Now most new watches can go five to seven years between servicing and I think Rolex now mentions ten.
The only watch I have sent in for service so far is my Breitling Superocean Steelfish. When my non watch friend heard how much I spent to have it serviced he almost fell off his chair.

Thanks for the info gents. I think I will pass on a watch winder. None of my automatics have enough complications to necessitate powering up ahead of time.

I love the green and turquoise lume on the Zelos swordfish.

How would you treat a watch that you assume has been at zero degrees for four days? On Friday, I ordered a watch for my wife for Christmas. It's been stuck at the Boston airport since Friday. I assume the arctic blast put a wrinkle in the "guaranteed Saturday deliver" FexEx schedule. Though in three days thus far, I might have liked to see at least some movement. Anyway, I'm debating what do do when it arrives, as I assume it's in the belly of the plane or in a shipping module, on the tarmac.

Just let it warm slowly in the box for several hours I suppose.

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Originally posted by r0gue:
How would you treat a watch that you assume has been at zero degrees for four days? On Friday, I ordered a watch for my wife for Christmas. It's been stuck at the Boston airport since Friday. I assume the arctic blast put a wrinkle in the "guaranteed Saturday deliver" FexEx schedule. Though in three days thus far, I might have liked to see at least some movement. Anyway, I'm debating what do do when it arrives, as I assume it's in the belly of the plane or in a shipping module, on the tarmac.

Just let it warm slowly in the box for several hours I suppose.

I suppose the warming process will begin once it moves to the sorting facility/delivery vehicle. My concern, which is probably the same as yours, is did the cold temps cause water vapor to condense inside the mechanical workings - assuming it’s mechanical and O-ring sealed?

Maybe not a bad idea to remove the case back if that’s an option while it acclimates to room temp.

On the other hand, if the watch was assembled in a low humidity facility/location there’s a pretty low chance that there was enough water vapor to condense in the cold temps.

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Originally posted by mdblanton:

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Originally posted by r0gue:
How would you treat a watch that you assume has been at zero degrees for four days? On Friday, I ordered a watch for my wife for Christmas. It's been stuck at the Boston airport since Friday. I assume the arctic blast put a wrinkle in the "guaranteed Saturday deliver" FexEx schedule. Though in three days thus far, I might have liked to see at least some movement. Anyway, I'm debating what do do when it arrives, as I assume it's in the belly of the plane or in a shipping module, on the tarmac.

Just let it warm slowly in the box for several hours I suppose.

I suppose the warming process will begin once it moves to the sorting facility/delivery vehicle. My concern, which is probably the same as yours, is did the cold temps cause water vapor to condense inside the mechanical workings - assuming it’s mechanical and O-ring sealed?

Maybe not a bad idea to remove the case back if that’s an option while it acclimates to room temp.

On the other hand, if the watch was assembled in a low humidity facility/location there’s a pretty low chance that there was enough water vapor to condense in the cold temps.

I think that would depend upon the humidity within the house. Remember, cold metal tends to condense moisture in a warm environment.

I think letting it sit for a few hours in or out of the box is the answer.

Don't even unscrew the crown if so equipped.

RMD

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Originally posted by r0gue:
How would you treat a watch that you assume has been at zero degrees for four days? On Friday, I ordered a watch for my wife for Christmas. It's been stuck at the Boston airport since Friday. I assume the arctic blast put a wrinkle in the "guaranteed Saturday deliver" FexEx schedule. Though in three days thus far, I might have liked to see at least some movement. Anyway, I'm debating what do do when it arrives, as I assume it's in the belly of the plane or in a shipping module, on the tarmac.

Just let it warm slowly in the box for several hours I suppose.

Like you I have been eyeing the Reverso.

If it is a Sinn, would not worry about the temperature.

Sinn Temperature Resistance


Otherwise I would treat the watch like a camera, slowly let it come back up to room temperature.

Things are a little too sleepy here. So, here's a Reverso!

Rogue, that is class pure, have always liked them

I’m tempted to remove the patina on one of my CUSN8 Bronze Zelos watches.

Will a bit of lemon juice and water do the trick?