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A revival of the Watch thread

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June 26, 2022, 02:13 PM
mdblanton
A revival of the Watch thread
Both the JLC and VC are incredible complications. I find the engineering that goes into a mechanical watch with either no or only a single complication (date) quite impressive as well. Sure, an inexpensive quartz watch can be more durable and keep better time (love the G-Shocks I’ve had over the years). However, to me, the fascinating precision of a mechanical watch is hard to beat.
June 27, 2022, 10:23 AM
Z06
My new Summer band for the 300M

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June 27, 2022, 05:35 PM
stickman428
That is an amazing strap!! It looks REALLY GOOD! Going by my limited Tissot Seastar Professional auto Chronograph , I can confidently say this watch group makes incredible rubber steps. Enjoy!! Cool


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June 28, 2022, 06:34 AM
Beancooker
I Laos have the black rubber strap for my Seamaster. Quite comfortable and pleasant to wear. That’s a great looking strap on a great looking watch, Z06.



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June 28, 2022, 02:58 PM
konata88
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Originally posted by Beancooker:
the Vacheron Constantin


I actually have some difficulty setting just the date on my watches so that it's correct month to month, let alone accommodate leap years properly.

This must be a nightmare to set up correctly for the exact day and time. One would hope it's automatic but can be set via atomic radio....

The genius of the mechanical engg behind this though - staggering.




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June 28, 2022, 05:12 PM
jhe888
quote:
Originally posted by Beancooker:
Here’s a question for all of you…

Does anyone make a chronograph that uses the small seconds hand as the chronograph and the big seconds hand stays the seconds hand?

If that watch exists, I would probably start saving for it immediately.


I don't know of any because if you want a chrono, you want a stopwatch and having the stopwatch hand be the big seconds makes sense for that use.

But there may be one - I certainly do not have exhaustive knowledge.




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June 28, 2022, 09:19 PM
Beancooker
Jhe, I have never had the need for a stopwatch on my watch. I understand the reason one would want the big seconds hand for the stopwatch, but I despise a small seconds hand. I have this weird thing about seconds and the seconds hand.

I think a chronograph looks totally cool and I love the mechanics behind it. I’d love to have me, just with the stopwatch using the minuscule seconds hand and leave my time to the three proper hands. If I find one, unless it’s an Invicta, I’ll most likely buy it, or put it on the wish/dream list.



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June 28, 2022, 10:33 PM
BrianO
quote:
Originally posted by Beancooker:
...I have never had the need for a stopwatch on my watch. ...I despise a small seconds hand. I have this weird thing about seconds and the seconds hand.

One solution, if you don't need a stopwatch, is to just keep the large seconds hand running all the time as your sweep seconds hand. When you want to synchronize it to your reference clock, just activate the chrono function.
June 28, 2022, 10:45 PM
stickman428
^^ he is right. I often synchronize my small seconds hand with the large chrono second hand on my C60 Chronograph. If it’s powered with a Valjoux 77XX movement it’s not going to hurt it all to run the Chronograph function all day every day. Cool




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June 29, 2022, 12:33 AM
CPD SIG
RE- Chronos.
As far as I know, the large second hand works only in the stopwatch function because it's easier to see. I cant think of any Chrono brands that the larger second hand always works. (then again, I know just enough about watches to get me into expensive trouble! Wink )

STICKMAN;
Hey, a question: I've always heard that you shouldn't run the stopwatch function constantly. I was told that it is too much of a strain on the gears. (then again, I know just enough about watches to get me into expensive trouble! Wink ) Or is dependent upon the movement?


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June 29, 2022, 01:10 AM
stickman428
CPD SIG, It’s going to add a little more wear to the movement but I don’t think it’s a big enough deal to stop me from doing it. Christopher Ward guarantees their movements 100% for 60 months so that’s another reason I am not at all concerned with running my Chronograph for prolonged lengths of time. Smile

Some people report a negative impact on the watch accuracy and/or power reserve when you run the chrono for long periods of time but in my experience that has not happened.

I would venture to guess that frequent stopping, resetting and restarting the Chronograph could be more likely to lead to premature wear than letting the chrono run for a long time.


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June 29, 2022, 02:37 AM
BrianO
quote:
Originally posted by stickman428: I would venture to guess that frequent stopping, resetting and restarting the Chronograph could be more likely to lead to premature wear than letting the chrono run for a long time

That matches my experience as well.
June 29, 2022, 06:37 AM
Beancooker
I get that I can run the chronograph to make the large seconds hand sweep. It’s what I do with my MTG. I just don’t like it. I figured with all the watches out there, someone who makes one has to feel the same way I do.

On a mechanical watch it will cause more wear. The gears I’m not worried about, but a chronograph uses as much if not more of the stored energy in the mainspring than the actual time function. The drain on the power reserve, and the additional winding of the spring will cause it to wear faster. As the mainspring gets older, it will tend to lose accuracy (usually on the bottom end of the power reserve). I get the warranty part, as my watches carry between five and eight years on the movement, but I still don’t want it gone for a month for repairs.

I’ll keep looking and if I find one, I’ll let you know.



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June 29, 2022, 12:11 PM
Appliance Brad
quote:
Originally posted by Beancooker:
I get the warranty part, as my watches carry between five and eight years on the movement, but I still don’t want it gone for a month for repairs.


RGM is currently 4-6 months. Wink


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June 29, 2022, 02:27 PM
BrianO
quote:
Originally posted by Beancooker: As the mainspring gets older, it will tend to lose accuracy (usually on the bottom end of the power reserve).

It shouldn't. Isochronism is the ability of a properly poised movement to keep a constant rate regardless of amplitude. The function of the balance wheel is to act as a pendulum, and just as with a hanging pendulum, the period of the swings shouldn't change as the distance swung does.
June 29, 2022, 04:34 PM
jhe888
quote:
Originally posted by CPD SIG:
RE- Chronos.
As far as I know, the large second hand works only in the stopwatch function because it's easier to see. I cant think of any Chrono brands that the larger second hand always works. (then again, I know just enough about watches to get me into expensive trouble! Wink )

STICKMAN;
Hey, a question: I've always heard that you shouldn't run the stopwatch function constantly. I was told that it is too much of a strain on the gears. (then again, I know just enough about watches to get me into expensive trouble! Wink ) Or is dependent upon the movement?


The stopping and starting of the chrono is proabably what wears it out, not letting it run all the time, as several have said.

Again, chronos are intended to be watch and stopwatch combos. It makes total sense for the big seconds to be the stopwatch seconds so you can read it accurately.

Making the small seconds the stopwatch doesn't make sense. If you want that, then you really only want the chrono because it looks cool, and not because you want/need a stopwatch. Not many "serious" watchmakers will design a watch on that basis. They are going to put the stopwatch on the large seconds hand.




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June 29, 2022, 05:21 PM
toxophilus84
Newest addition; running like a top Smile




the handle?... it's Latin for "Lover of the Bow".
June 30, 2022, 08:55 AM
stickman428
This JDM Seiko has one of the best bezel insets they ever made.

Look how it’s color changes from full sun to low light. It works with this dial brilliantly.





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June 30, 2022, 08:56 AM
stickman428
toxophilus84, that’s a great looking Orient. I love the lume on that dial flieger style.


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June 30, 2022, 09:23 AM
toxophilus84
quote:
Originally posted by stickman428:
toxophilus84, that’s a great looking Orient. I love the lume on that dial flieger style.


And I agree with everything about the SBDC077, it's one of my favorite green dial watches.

I finally gave mine a break from daily wear (since March 2021) for about a week, it's back on my right wrist because why not? Wink




the handle?... it's Latin for "Lover of the Bow".