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45 Colt shotshells

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July 15, 2021, 09:50 AM
Gustofer
45 Colt shotshells
I've been looking for some online and, just like everything else, they are made of unobtainium. So, I figured I'd try loading some myself - seems easy enough.

I found a Youtube video of a fella loading 160ish gr of shot with 9.5gr of Unique. Then I found another site where a fella tested out that load and found that the pressures were too high for my Colt SAA, and suggested reducing the charge by at least a grain.

Has anyone loaded these up and have a good recipe they can share that won't blow up my Colt? I'll be using 9-shot with either Unique or Red Dot.


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July 15, 2021, 09:03 PM
sourdough44
I’ve loaded shot shells for a variety of handguns, 38, 45 Colt, & 41 mag, maybe others.

I bought 10 pounds of #11 shot a while back, should be a lifetime supply. I have used the Speed capsules, more recently skipped that component.

An easy way is to charge the powder, then a small cardboard or small slice of dense styrofoam on top of the powder, add the shot until almost full. You can seal it in place with one or two layers of fingernail polish.

The best data is usually in the Speer manual. That data usually calls for a LIGHT charge of a faster powder. Your pattern will be worse with a high charge. I normally use something like Titegroup.

One other note of caution. I’ve seen where shot shells don’t fare well when they’re in the cylinder when other, more full power rounds are fired. That would be possible if you set up where the shot shell was #4 or later in the cylinder. I’ve see capsules break, so it’s not just a hardened polish failure.

To mitigate, you could have a shot shell fire 1st, or carry separate & load as needed.

Another idea to consider is a longer case to load more shot. That could be a slightly trimmed 357 case to fit in a 38, or a 414 mag case trimmed to fit in a 41 mag cylinder. Since these never have bullets & the lighter powder charge, no over pressure worries.

Just a few musings, worked for me.
July 15, 2021, 10:48 PM
Gustofer
Thanks sourdough.

Looks like Speer recommends ~150gr of shot with 7.5gr of Unique.

I'll be using gas checks and a crimp to hold them together, so hopefully recoil won't cause any issues.


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July 16, 2021, 09:06 PM
MikeinNC
When I had my 45colt, I loaded with 6grains of unique, shotcard, #9 shot, shotcard glued in, and just roll crimped the edge of the case. Used them in a ruger new vaquero. Worked fine. Could hit a paper plate at ten feet and would have put a hurting on a snake if I’d have ever run across one with that particular gun.



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July 18, 2021, 03:39 PM
Gustofer
160gr of 9-shot with 7.5gr Unique. Light shooting and pretty decent group at 15ft. And I agree it'd put a hurtin' on critters with shoulders and without.



I used 45 cal gas checks which were a bit of a PITA to get seated straight on top, even with a decent bell, so I could crimp. I think I'll try some 44 cal ones instead. That should work better.


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July 19, 2021, 05:03 AM
sourdough44
10 days ago I saw a mouse in the shed, somewhat tame he/she seemed. I thought about going to get my shot loads to try out but instead freshened the trap bait & tucked away poison. I caught two so far.

The neighbors just told me about mice in their wood splitter air filter, time to step up control.