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Purveyor of Death and Destruction |
Would Winchester 231 work good in 45 ACP? I haven't loaded the round in years. I think I was using Unique. | ||
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Prepared for the Worst, Providing the Best |
I use HP38, basically the same thing as 231. Works ok...had to get up near max to get even close to a complete powder burn, and it's still messy. My meter hates it, too. When I finish up my current supply I'm switching back to Unique. | |||
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Member |
I shot many thousands of rounds of .45 ACP 200gr LSWC's back when I was shooting IPSC stuff, all loaded with 231 to major power level. I never had any issues with it. I don't recall what the charge weight was. Unique is good too. IIRC it was quite a bit smokier, but that could have been the lube on the bullets I was using. It was about 35 years ago now. | |||
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I Deal In Lead |
Unique changed the formulation somehow so it was cleaner a number of years ago and it's not bad these days. 231 will work fine for .45 ACP. | |||
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Moderator |
I’ve used 231 since the early ‘80s for lighter loads in .45. __________________ "Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician." -Jeff Cooper | |||
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teacher of history |
I have used 231 for .45acp and 9mm for many years. I have had no problems with it. | |||
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Staring back from the abyss |
Red Dot and Unique here. Both work well enough for me. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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Member |
I've loaded a lot of 45 with W231 and don't have any real complaints. I've got an 8# jug unopened and a couple 1# I'm working through. | |||
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Purveyor of Death and Destruction |
I appreciate everyone's help. I may load up a few rounds from 231 and unique to see which I like best. | |||
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Member |
Win 231 (equivalent to HP38 in current manuf.) is my go-to for .45 ACP loads. With 200 gr LSWC's, I load 5.0 to 5.2 gr. for 800 fps out of my 1911's and an ancient Smith model 1955 Target. With hard ball, 230's, I up the load to 5.4 - 5.5 gr to match the government military load. Both are superbly accurate in my guns. I don't like Unique (affectionately known as "flaming dirt" by some) in the .45 ACP for it's +- 0.2 gr charge variance with my measures. 231 or HP38 meter exceptionally well. Best regards, Rod 5th Spl Forces, Air Force Bird Dog FAC, lll Corps RVN 69-70.... We enjoy the Bill of Rights by the sacrifices of our veterans; Politicians, Preachers, Educators, Journalists and Community Organizers are beneficiaries, not defenders of our freedoms. | |||
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Member |
I like Win-231/Hp-38, use it with various handgun loads. Hodgdon had a fairly recent comparison, calling HP-38 ‘older technology’. I like Titegroup also. https://www.hodgdonreloading.c...ng-powder-efficiency With some reloaders, Titegroup gets disparaged as a potential of a double charge. That can be true with many, it’s also slower on most charts than Bullseye, another older school powder. I try to bridge the gap between old favorites, but willing to try new powders. The last few years, availability factors in heavily. I will say, 4-8 pounds of Titegroup lasts a long time. | |||
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