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Hey all- I am curious about IMR 4227 powder. I see it gets some use in 300 Blackout, especially in subsonic loads. Does anyone use it for any other rifle loads? Even as a 2nd or 3rd choice powder? I see a couple of very reduced .223 loads but not much else. Magnum pistol seems to be the primary use and that doesn't interest me. Anybody got any information on other uses? Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | ||
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I use it exclusively for cast bullet military rifle match loads. Does very well in M1 Carbine as well. | |||
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I have about 3+ pounds of 4227, given by a relative. I think this powder is 80’s or so vintage. I have other, slower powders for revolvers which I don’t load that often. Did see some low speed rifle loads, low interest there too. I may eventually get around to it with the 357, 41, & 44 mag. | |||
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I didn’t plan on loading for the 7.62x39, but decided to get supplies to use up some 4227 powder. I have enough other, fresh powder for revolvers. It may not be max speeds, but IMR-4227 is commonly listed for the 7.62x39 ‘Russian’. | |||
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I don't load 300 subs, but I have a pound of 4227 on the shelf. I can't remember what I used it for! It comes up periodically in my load data, but another powder always seems to do better for the cartridge I am interested in. -------------------------------------------- Floridian by birth, Seminole by the grace of God | |||
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Thanks, everyone. I had seen it in stock and impulse ordered it. I realized afterwards that it doesn't work well for anything that I load regularly. I was able to cancel the order. Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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Well, I thought I was able to cancel the order! Now, I have to find something to do with 8 lbs of this powder. 300 Blackout, here I come!  Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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Did it come in an 8 lbs. jug? My last order came in 1 lbs. bottles. | |||
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8 lb jug showed up yesterday. Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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It's good for cast bullet loads in rifle and some handgun cartridges. The only jacketed loads I've used it with has been for .30 carbine. | |||
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Just an idea. I found a free download of the Lee #1 manual from a Marlin site. The manual includes a handful of rifle loads with IMR-4227. https://www.marlinowners.com/t...d-references.281290/ The powder isn’t mainstream or ideal with the 223, but I plan to try some, light bullets. It isn’t near top speeds, but I have some ‘free’ powder I plan to use up. Yes I know about the magnum revolver loads. | |||
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Howdy! I have an IMR booklet (pdf) which actually predates 300BO but has many seemingly (to this novice reloader) useful loadings of 4227 including but not limited to the following: rifle chamberings 22 hornet 220 Swift 22-250 6 mm Rem 25-06 257 Roberts 7mm mauser 280 Remington 7 Remington mag 30 m1 carbine 300 Savage 308 30-40 krag 30-06 300 win mag 762x39 8mm Mauser 338 win mag 357 magnum rifle 35 Remington 358 Winchester 375 H&H mag 444 Marlin 45-70 458 win mag Handgun listings include 357 mag 44 special 44 rem mag 45 Colt Also a bunch of 410 loads Email inbound.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ yeah, i can teach you how to read the book of life... or you can just look at the pictures if you like | |||
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I use it in my 500 Linebaugh and that’s about it. (I don’t use it in 300 blackout or all the other cartridges that’re the same with different names) | |||
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I only have a couple of pounds of it remaining ... used maybe a pound of it over the years loading mostly M1 Carbine (but back in the day I had a 22 Hornet and 22-250 I used it for at times) and I did use it for 300 BLK until I scored a keg of CFE BLK this past October from Midway. I'm sure I'll find a reason to use it again one day. I've heard of it being used for subsonic 5.56 but for the life of me I never understood why anyone would want-to. ___________________________________________________________ In a nation where anything goes ... everything eventually will. | |||
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