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Rules for a gunfight

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March 22, 2017, 10:50 AM
BBMW
Rules for a gunfight
This pops up on the internet every once in a while, but it's always good to see. Not everyone will agree with all of them. But there's some good common sense in there.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/...ght-sfc-joe-b-frick/

1. Forget about knives, bats and fists. Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring all of your friends who have guns. Bring four times the ammunition you think you could ever need.
2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammunition is cheap – life is expensive. If you shoot inside, buckshot is your friend. A new wall is cheap – funerals are expensive
3. Only hits count. The only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss.
4. If your shooting stance is good, you’re probably not moving fast enough or using cover correctly.
5. Move away from your attacker and go to cover. Distance is your friend. (Bulletproof cover and diagonal or lateral movement are preferred.)
6. If you can choose what to bring to a gunfight, bring a semi or full-automatic long gun and a friend with a long gun.
7. In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.
8. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating, reloading, and running. Yell “Fire!” Why “Fire”? Cops will come with the Fire Department, sirens often scare off the bad guys, or at least cause then to lose concentration and will…. and who is going to summon help if you yell “Intruder,” “Glock” or “Winchester?”
9. Accuracy is relative: most combat shooting standards will be more dependent on “pucker factor” than the inherent accuracy of the gun.
10. Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.
11. Always cheat, always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.
12. Have a plan.
13. Have a back-up plan, because the first one won’t work. “No battle plan ever survives 10 seconds past first contact with an enemy.”
14. Use cover or concealment as much as possible, but remember, sheetrock walls and the like stop nothing but your pulse when bullets tear through them.
15. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours.
16. Don’t drop your guard.
17. Always tactical load and threat scan 360 degrees. Practice reloading one-handed and off-hand shooting. That’s how you live if hit in your “good” side.
18. Watch their hands. Hands kill. Smiles, frowns and other facial expressions don’t (In God we trust. Everyone else keep your hands where I can see them.)
19. Decide NOW to always be aggressive ENOUGH, quickly ENOUGH.
20. The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.
21. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet if necessary, because they may want to kill you.
22. Be courteous to everyone, overly friendly to no one.
23. Your number one option for personal security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.
24. Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun, the caliber of which does not start with anything smaller than “4”.
25. Use a gun that works EVERY TIME. “All skill is in vain when an Angel blows the powder from the flintlock of your musket.” At a practice session, throw you gun into the mud, then make sure it still works. You can clean it later.
26. Practice shooting in the dark, with someone shouting at you, when out of breath, etc.
27. Redardless of whether justified of not, you will feel sad about killing another human being. It is better to be sad than to be room temperature.
28. The only thing you EVER say afterwards is, “He said he was going to kill me. I believed him. I’m sorry, Officer, but I’m very upset now. I can’t say anything more. Please speak with my attorney.”

Finally, Drill Sergeant Frick’s Rules For Un-armed Combat.

1: Never be unarmed.
2: If you have your hands, your feet, your mind and your Spirit as an American Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine or Coastie, you are never unarmed.
March 22, 2017, 11:09 AM
Chowser
My first rule for any fight:

Always cheat, always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.



Not minority enough!
March 23, 2017, 04:59 PM
ss9961
If this thread was in the Lounge, it would be 4 pages long by now.
March 23, 2017, 06:09 PM
sigfreund
24: So, a revolver chambered for the 357 S&W Magnum cartridge—one of the most effective handgun fight-stoppers ever—just won’t cut it—? Roll Eyes

That list keeps getting longer and longer; evidently because everyone who reads it believes he has something profound and original to add.

And, oh: There is no powder in the “flintlock” of a musket; the powder is in the pan (and in the barrel, of course).
The original expression was “All Kunst ist umsunst wenn ein Engel auf das Zundloch brunzt” (German), or “All skill is in vain when an angel pees in the touch hole of your musket.”




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I can tell at sight a Chassepot rifle from a javelin.
March 23, 2017, 10:58 PM
joatmonv
If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.
No such thing as a fair fight.


I'd rather be hated for who I am than loved for who I'm not.
March 24, 2017, 12:13 AM
airsoft guy
quote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
24: So, a revolver chambered for the 357 S&W Magnum cartridge—one of the most effective handgun fight-stoppers ever—just won’t cut it—? Roll Eyes

That list keeps getting longer and longer; evidently because everyone who reads it believes he has something profound and original to add.

And, oh: There is no powder in the “flintlock” of a musket; the powder is in the pan (and in the barrel, of course).
The original expression was “All Kunst ist umsunst wenn ein Engel auf das Zundloch brunzt” (German), or “All skill is in vain when an angel pees in the touch hole of your musket.”


My friend's cousin's neighbor's childhood friend's neighbor on the other side, not the one with the pool, but the one with the really cool backyard playset's dad once watched a movie where a guy was shot with a 9mm. He got up, dusted himself off, called the shooter a girlfag for using such a wimpy caliber, and then headed off to the bar to drink whiskey and arm wrestle other men. No homo though.



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March 25, 2017, 07:22 PM
Oldrider
Wait...there's rules?


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March 26, 2017, 01:09 PM
Floyd D. Barber
quote:
Originally posted by joatmonv:
If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.
No such thing as a fair fight.





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March 28, 2017, 04:48 AM
msfzoe
Get there firstest with the mostest.
March 28, 2017, 01:48 PM
Rangerone
"Get your retaliation in first" - Jack Reacher
March 28, 2017, 04:28 PM
RichardC
Rule number one: Don't be there.


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March 28, 2017, 09:49 PM
EasyFire
Rules? Your'e shitting Me, yes?


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March 29, 2017, 04:45 PM
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Always remember that others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself.
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It's nice to be important, it's more important to be nice.
Billy Joe Shaver

NRA Life Member

April 12, 2017, 02:09 PM
Jager
Richard got it.

First rule of a gunfight:

Don't get in a gunfight.

And if you're reading some of the 'advice' in the list - my question is, what is your job, again?
June 11, 2017, 10:45 PM
CQB60
Make it a shooting and not a gunfight. Compliments jljones Wink


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July 04, 2017, 12:41 PM
RHINOWSO
quote:
Originally posted by CQB60:
Make it a shooting and not a gunfight. Compliments jljones Wink
Words to live by. Big Grin
July 05, 2017, 12:30 AM
sigmonkey
quote:
Originally posted by RichardC:
Rule number one: Don't be there.


Rules #2 & 3, if you stepped past #1.

Rule number two: If your not in it, stay out of it.

Rule number three: If your in it, finish it.




"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב!
July 05, 2017, 12:44 AM
Dead_Eye
Sounds like it was written by someone who has never been in a gunfight.


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July 05, 2017, 09:30 AM
az4783054
I have been in two shootings, 10 years apart. I don't want to be in another. But if it happens, my first and only "rule" is to survive. You do whatever it takes.

It really is better to give than receive.


I've enjoyed my time here, but tired of the whining and general management. Time to move on.