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Originally posted by sourdough44:

...Knowing the stop is a CCW holder should put the officer at a ‘slight’ ease.

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Originally posted by Sigmund:

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Originally posted by YooperSigs:

Yep.... The frisk and removal was excessive.
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Seems that way to me. IA does not require notification, but I would do so. CCW info comes back when they run your DL so they're gonna know. I would have done exactly as you did, but afterwards I would have been disappointed.

I've been carrying over 13 years now, have not been stopped since then. On the open road I'm usually going 5 or 6mph over, not a sizzling 8.

In defense of the LEO, maybe your car matched the description of a recent armed robber. But I doubt that was the case.

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Originally posted by Georgeair:
Did he clear the chambered round and just toss it in the trunk too?

And how are these second-person disarming moves not sweeping the person, with a gun and holster perhaps unfamiliar to the jumpy disarmer?

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Originally posted by Chowser:
Was the trooper young?

FYI, in Ohio, the troopers give you 7 mph over and that's it. 7. We don't even start stopping cars till you hit 16 over. And you still might not get a ticket. That's assuming we even have time to check for speeders. We only make time to sit in school zones during school hours to check for speeders.

90% of my stops with permit holders and they aren't carrying and I chastise them on why they should carry. The 10% that are carrying do notify me as they are required and my usual question is Cool, what are you carrying? Or Ok, don't show me yours and I won't show you mine.

Unless I am arresting you for something (maybe a warrant) then I would never disarm you. There's no need to bring guns out into a situation that doesn't require it. I'm not the type to give all permit holders a pass, there's some shady people out there with permits. Just need to be diligent.

Before I approach a car, I've already ran the owner's info and looked at a photo. If an agency doesn't have computers in the car, at the very least the dispatcher should've advised the officer if he/she gave them the plate.

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I was handed my 2 magazines first and informed that he loaded the chambered round back in the magazine.

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Originally posted by joatmonv:
I'm sure this has been posted but with many new members and people getting their permits to carry, I thought I'd pass on some advice. By no means am I a lawyer and take what I say however you want.
I was stopped yesterday May 7th on my way to work for speeding. 8 miles over the limit but I know it's their job.
Ohio State Patrolman approached the driver's side window and said, "Do you know why I'm stopping you today sir?"
I'm always carrying as soon as I leave my house so my pistol was on me.
My response: "Sir, by law I am required to inform you that I am carrying a concealed weapon".
Yes his hand went to his pistol. He didn't draw down on me but I know this is out of his safety. He doesn't know me. For all he knows, I'm a crazy man.
If you've never been stopped before, don't freak out. He's doing his job.
OSP: "Where is the weapon located?"
Me: "Inside my right side waistband".
OSP: "Alright sir, I'm going to have you exit the vehicle slowly".
He then opens my door, yes, hand on his pistol and guides me out. I am put in a finger/wrist lock of some sort(I'm not a LEO so I don't know) and he slowly retrieves my pistol from the holster. I am then frisked to make sure I don't have anything else on me. Again, don't freak out. He's doing his job.
I sit back in my car and then wait. After a few minutes, I am handed my DL, CCW license, registration and insurance card. A ticket also.
I am given my 2 magazines for the pistol but am asked if I could pop my trunk so he can place the pistol in there. No problem.
So a couple of points here.
#1. Don't freak out. You act crazy, something will happen and it'll probably be bad.
#2. Keep your registration, insurance card and whatever else in your visor above you. You start reaching around when you've informed him you're carrying and bad things may happen.
#3. Listen to his orders. He doesn't know you. He wants to go home and so do you.
#4. Keep your hands on the steering wheel until he asks for documents or licenses. Pretty simple. He can see your hands.
#5. Again, don't freak out. You're a law abiding person.

Just some friendly tips. All in all, it was a routine stop. This is the 4th time I've been stopped while carrying(3x in Ohio, 1x in Michigan) and they all went smoothly.

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Originally posted by Loaded Round:
That's much different than my experiences in KY.

The last time i was stopped (Bowling Green City Police / Motor Officer) it went like this:

As I handed the officer my DL and CWP, "I have a weapons permit and my weapon is (location of weapon)"

Officer: "That's perfectly OK. We appreciate your telling us"

Gave me a warning. We shook hands.

I love Kentucky.