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Is it best under duress to have one action type?

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April 03, 2017, 04:44 PM
4MUL8R
Is it best under duress to have one action type?
If most of your edc are pull trigger to fire while one is release safety then pull trigger, would you recommend trading or selling the single action only?


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April 03, 2017, 06:03 PM
RichardC
quote:
Originally posted by 4MUL8R:
If most of your edc are pull trigger to fire while one is release safety then pull trigger, would you recommend trading or selling the single action only?


Your life is at risk in traffic with one second response times every day.


Do you safely operate different kinds of vehicles on public roadways?


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April 03, 2017, 06:53 PM
Fenris
quote:
Originally posted by RichardC:
quote:
Originally posted by 4MUL8R:
If most of your edc are pull trigger to fire while one is release safety then pull trigger, would you recommend trading or selling the single action only?

Your life is at risk in traffic with one second response times every day.

Do you safely operate different kinds of vehicles on public roadways?

Yep. But I learned on, and drove stick for 10+ years. After driving a stick for even a short time, my left leg still tries to stomp the clutch in an automatic.




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April 03, 2017, 07:52 PM
Chris Anchor
Never change your carry weapon or holster without a fair amount of practice with the change. That split second of fumbling, muscle memory will kill you.. Chris
April 03, 2017, 08:36 PM
RogueJSK
Yes, in my opinion, it's best to stick to one type for serious purposes.

After similar deliberation a few years ago, I sold and traded off all my DA/SA handguns and standardized on striker-fired handguns for defensive purposes.

All my primary defensive rifles are ARs with the same manual of arms too.

(I have tons of other types of guns as range toys, though.)
April 03, 2017, 08:37 PM
V-Tail
I liked my H&K P7. I mean, I really, really liked it. I was (and still am) convinced that it is a great design, a very safe carry pistol, in terms of avoiding NDs, and very accurate.

Problem was, when I tried to shoot fast at the range, SIG P2xx habits and P7 habits did not play well together.

I had a SIG P228 and a P239, both of them DA / SA. The P7 was different enough that I really had to slow down and think about which pistol I was shooting.

I concluded that I am not good enough to switch seamlessly between two types of pistols that are so different. I reluctantly sold the P7 to a member here (I hope that you like it as much as I did!) and replaced it with a P245, so now all of my semi-auto pistols work the same way.



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April 03, 2017, 09:21 PM
Chowser
Yeah. My duty weapon is a Glock. I get the most trigger time with it so my off duty guns are usually Glocks.



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April 03, 2017, 09:29 PM
sigfreund
Some people claim that they never have any problem switching among various types; if that’s true then that’s obviously not something to worry about.

I have seen, however, fumbling due to that sort of thing, so it obviously is not true of everyone. Whether it’s true of you, only you can determine.

I personally switch between DAK pistols and the P320 and have encountered no problems. I suspect, however, that that’s at least partly due to the fact that both require nothing more than pulling the trigger to fire and holstering when finished. Some years ago when I was testing some techniques and using a DA/SA SIG, I once forgot to decock before holstering: not a good thing.




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April 03, 2017, 10:20 PM
Aglifter
That you, and probably everyone else who ever drove a stick, regularly, tries to stomp the clutch, is f your answer.
April 03, 2017, 10:21 PM
Aglifter
F shouldn't be there. Large fingers small phone
April 04, 2017, 07:00 AM
RichardC
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Originally posted by Aglifter:
F shouldn't be there. Large fingers small phone


Good point. Smile


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April 04, 2017, 07:16 AM
jcat
commonality in platform, IMO is a big deal.

It's why I went all striker fired, and all gen 4 glocks. Same general 'feel', same trigger pull, same operation. I also changed all the sights to the same type on all 3 once I found a set that worked. That way no matter which one I have on me or which one I grab in the middle of the night, it's all the same.

Except the J frame. But that's a bit of a different story and to sigfreund's point, it's point-and-pull just like a no-safety striker gun.

I'm sure with enough training you could master them all, but why complicate it.


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April 04, 2017, 09:14 AM
Muddflap
quote:
Originally posted by jcat:
commonality in platform, IMO is a big deal.


It is to me too. I'm a very simple minded, habit orientated person.

I've practiced with Sigs the most, and that's what I carry. I have a Kahr K9, that I enjoy shooting, and I shoot it well. When I take it to the range, I'll catch myself short stroking the second shot several times. I'm used to the Sig reset. If I do that at the range in a controlled, calm situation, would I do it in a real life situation.

If I wanted to carry the Kahr, I'd have to put the Sigs away, and practice more with the Kahr.
April 04, 2017, 12:01 PM
SgtGold
Most handguns today are point and click interfaces. For me it really doesn't matter if's a legacy P226, G23, or a S&W 340PD. In the end they are all point and click. Now a 1911 or something else witn a manual safety is a different matter.


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April 04, 2017, 12:45 PM
Pipe Smoker
All of my pistols are SAO:
X5 Comp
P238
Beretta 87 Target .22LR

I think that a common MOA is a good plan.



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April 04, 2017, 01:26 PM
JAFO
It may go beyond just the type of trigger pull in some cases.

I usually shoot P-series guns, but once a year I work the GSSF match in town, and I borrow my father-in-law's G19 so I can shoot the match. One thing I found is that because of where I habitually position my middle finger on a reload, I was blocking the movement of the mag release on the off-side of the G19. That effectively kept me from releasing the mag until I realized what was going on. In a GSSF match, it doesn't matter a bit. But I'd have to seriously retrain myself if I ever thought about carrying a Glock.


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April 04, 2017, 05:46 PM
BBMW
If your gun goes click, you likely have a problem.

quote:
Originally posted by SgtGold:
Most handguns today are point and click interfaces. For me it really doesn't matter if's a legacy P226, G23, or a S&W 340PD. In the end they are all point and click. Now a 1911 or something else witn a manual safety is a different matter.

April 04, 2017, 06:49 PM
Muddflap
quote:
Originally posted by SgtGold:
Most handguns today are point and click interfaces. For me it really doesn't matter if's a legacy P226, G23, or a S&W 340PD. In the end they are all point and click. Now a 1911 or something else witn a manual safety is a different matter.



Point and pull the trigger is only half the drill.

If you try to decock your Glock before holstering it, no big deal.

Forget to decock your Sig, and you could cause yourself some pain.
April 04, 2017, 07:10 PM
SgtGold
quote:
Originally posted by Muddflap:
Point and pull the trigger is only half the drill.

If you try to decock your Glock before holstering it, no big deal.

Forget to decock your Sig, and you could cause yourself some pain.


The point I'm making is people tend to take this to extremes. The internet is full of people who assure you that you'll end up dead in a pool of blood if you don't carry an identical trigger to the one that's under the bed. When I carried a legacy Sig I also had one under the bed. When I switched to Glock I did the same thing. I occasionally carry a 1911 and I don't feel I'm in danger of forgetting about the safety because I thumb swipe every auto I use due to muscle memory. Old habits are hard to break, but if you train the right way it's not the issue it's made out to be.


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April 05, 2017, 11:10 AM
BBMW
Wouldn't the failure mode be about the same? Neither can fire unless the trigger is pulled. Both will fire with about the same trigger pull (withing a lb or two.)

quote:
Originally posted by Muddflap:
quote:
Originally posted by SgtGold:
Most handguns today are point and click interfaces. For me it really doesn't matter if's a legacy P226, G23, or a S&W 340PD. In the end they are all point and click. Now a 1911 or something else witn a manual safety is a different matter.



Point and pull the trigger is only half the drill.

If you try to decock your Glock before holstering it, no big deal.

Forget to decock your Sig, and you could cause yourself some pain.