I've been carrying for just over 1-1/2 years now, nearly all the time a G-19, nearly always in a Vedder LightTuck IWB with the claw. It conceals pretty well if I dress carefully, and carries the gun well, too. Unfortunately, after a while it presses against my sciatic nerve, and if I don't catch it in time I'm in for a couple weeks of painful recovery, and no carrying. I've tried a Don Hume IWB leather holster and it doesn't conceal well enough, leaving the grip sticking out way too far.

In cooler weather I use a Raven Perun LC and add a light. Under a jacket or coat it conceals well, and is amazingly comfortable. Down side, the grip sticks out even more than the Don Hume, so it's useless in warm weather.

I've seen vids about the Vedder LightDraw OWB. It's getting pretty expensive at $90, several bucks extra if I want both the standard and pancake clips.

The only alternative I've come up with is to get a lesser gun, I'm favoring the Ruger Max 9 or another Glock, probably a 43X. I don't like downgrading from my G-19, though.

Anybody have experience with this LightDraw? Does it conceal under a shirt or do I need a jacket? I really need something that holds close-in.

AIWB

AIWB will have to wait until after hernia surgery. Thanks for the suggestion, though.

Sciatic nerve? What position are you carrying the gun at?

Between 3:00 and 3:30 gives me the best concealment.

I have spinal stenosis in discs L3-L5 and have had issues with carrying before. If I have a really good carry belt, it helps a lot. I also shift my gun forward to about 2:00.

3:00-3:30 may give you the best concealment, but that's 1.5 year carry concerns. I've been carrying since 2011 and I'll tell you a secret: nobody's looking, nobody cares. I found it far more important to make it comfortable enough to be willing to keep the gun on me than to make sure it never prints.

What are you using for a belt? Belt make a bigger difference than the holster or even the gun in many cases.

Beltman belt, don't remember which model, but I got the close-spaced holes, 7/8", IIRC, to give the best adjustability, and I make use of them.

Wouldn't 2:00 be AIWB? And wouldn't it also interfere with driving? I'll try tinkering with it this afternoon.

AIWB is basically 12:00. I just shift the pistol a bit forward of my hip rather than directly on it or behind it. Hasn't interfered with driving any. I also had an inguinal hernia and the surgery didn't go well, so believe me, I totally get that whole routine also. Everyone's body is different, but this is what has worked best for me.

Carrying is one of those things where there is no one perfect solution with no downsides. There are going to be some trade offs somewhere. If ultimate concealment is causing you pain to the point where you're thinking about switching to a smaller gun, I suggest that trying some other things first might be more beneficial in the long run. I've had great luck with Stealthgear Ventcore Mini holsters and 1.5" kydex lined inner duty belts for carry. Infinite sizability on the fly has made the difference a time or two. I'll also note that I typically carry a G19 in the summer and a G45 the rest of the year. Being that I live in Phoenix, that's about a 50/50 split.

Sorry to hear your hernia surgery didn't go well. The main reason I'm putting if off is that I'd have to get to a better hospital than we have around here, staffed, half by Indians and Mexicans, the other half being the reason the Indians and Mexicans are here in such great numbers. I was told I'd be in the local hospital 3-4 days after emergency appendectomy surgery a few years ago and it was 9 days before I got home.

I'll take a ride with the gun in the 2:00 position this afternoon.

Update, short ride, have to adjust the holster, but much better than I had hoped. I just threw on an old Don Hume 715 so I didn't have to readjust my Vedder, it was fine on the way out, poked me in the gut as I got into the car for the trip home. I'll take that over sciatic nerve pain any day!

Concealment under a one-size-up Crazy Shirt (Hawaiian brand I like) was actually better in the 2:00 position than my preferred 3:00 position.

I'd still prefer an OWB at 3:00 so my question still stands, does anybody have experience with the Vedder LightDraw or similar holster, but at least I'm back to carrying.

Thanks to Bulldog and Smudge for the encouragement!

If not too late, I’d try a Glock 17 length IWB holster. Spread out the pressure and puts the point further down the hip.

Also maybe a pad from Phlster. https://www.phlsterholsters.com/wedge-rx

Still looking for a good OWB, I ordered a Bravo Concealment and pancake belt loops (recommended for best concealment) from Amazon.

It does not conceal worth a damn!!!

It's going back to Amazon tomorrow. Maybe I'll try the Vedder I mentioned earlier, but the Bravo was a waste of time.

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Originally posted by newtoSig765:
Still looking for a good OWB,

My primary carry holster for my WCV Gen 5 Glock 19 is a Kramer horsehide OWB belt scabbard. I've been using these holsters since the early 90s (different guns over the years...). Used them with my P220 and P226 while working plain clothes too.

During the Fall, Winter, and Spring it's always the Kramer belt scabbard, during the Summer (or when I need/want a little more concealment) it's a Sparks SSII IWB holster.

Good luck with your search.

That Kramer looks a lot like the Galco Concealable I got years ago. First one was for a Colt Commander and it worked fine, but the one for my Glock didn't pull the gun in tight enough. As for the Sparks, I really want OWB, though I'm starting to think it's an impossibility for truly concealed.

Guess it doesn't pay to be skinny. I'm stuck with really narrow shoulders and more normal-sized waist.

If you aren't opposed to spending just a little more, I've had great luck with Ryan Grizzle's holsters. He's a member here as well. I use one of his OWB holsters with a Glock 19 and a Kore belt. I can conceal it just fine under a T-shirt. I find the holsters very comfortable and have several. IWB is always going to be less comfortable. I have a typical dad bod, so not skinny.

I know Ryan's work is very well respected here. I'll have to contact him for an opinion, but as you implied, they are expensive.

You kind of have to look at it as an investment in comfort and concealablity. And if cared for, it's going to last quite a long time. In other words, you aren't going to be buying one every year, unless you want to, of course. Good luck with your quest. For reference, I am using Ryan's Georgia Snap 2 with the G19.

I carry my G19 IWB in a Comp-Tac MTAC.

https://www.comp-tac.com/mtac-holster

It is very adjustable, and the two-point attachment distributes the weight evenly.

Where its design may help you, the leather backside is cut / layered in such a way to keep the slide slightly away from direct on-body contact.

I find it very comfortable and the leather breaks in nicely.

I did trim the ends of the attachment clips as reducing their length added to the comfort.

I still want a really close-fitting OWB. If such a thing exists!

I have been using pretty exclusively lately the OWB from Upper Hand Holsters. They are curved, kydex, and using speed clips been very effective at anything from BG2.0 size up to G19 size.