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August 30, 2019, 06:02 AM
pops572
Ozarks Holsters
Does anyone know if Dustin Osbourne is still in business? I ordered one of his hybrids 2 months ago and tried checking on the status and have heard nothing. Hos website is still up and functioning but I have ordered several from him and always got excellent service both speed and email reaponses. This time just seems completely out of character for him.


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August 30, 2019, 05:19 PM
SigM4
I used to live around the corner from him for about 4 years. We’ve since moved but I was keeping in contact with him via text occasionally. Haven’t heard from him in a while. I’ll check in to see how he’s doing and report back.



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August 30, 2019, 06:36 PM
RNshooter
Several of my emails have gone unanswered, going back several months.
I am wondering, myself.

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August 31, 2019, 10:37 AM
copaup
I hope everything is OK. I've bought a few holsters from him over the years and have been very satisfied.
September 01, 2019, 08:54 PM
techguy
I placed an order on March 27, delivery time was supposed to be 4-5 weeks. on May 3, I sent a message asking about my holster. On May 4th he sent me a message saying his arm was broke and my holster was a month away from making it to the bench. On June 21 I left a message telling him to cancel my order, I got a message back saying “it was going to ship out tomorrow but I noticed your email so I’ll pack it away for a possible future order, thanks”. I got my money back.
September 01, 2019, 09:13 PM
pops572
Well I am 9 weeks in with no response to a few emails, so I am going to Paypal now.


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September 04, 2019, 05:49 PM
unarmed
I sent him a few emails months ago and earlier this month with no response. I really like his holsters and was hoping to place some orders.
September 04, 2019, 06:03 PM
pops572
Well I got a refund through Paypal but still no response from Dustin. Guess I will just have to be content with my Vedder’s now.


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September 06, 2019, 04:43 PM
dc54
I've called once and now emailed twice without a response. PayPal next week if I don't hear from him. Too bad.


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September 07, 2019, 01:48 PM
jljones
Sad to hear.




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September 07, 2019, 02:04 PM
az4783054
Sad to (maybe) lose another one man operation holster shop. BRL is another that built beautiful leather holsters, but he's evidently gone TU as well.

Living takes its toll on all of us.
September 07, 2019, 04:38 PM
dking271
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Originally posted by az4783054:
Sad to (maybe) lose another one man operation holster shop. BRL is another that built beautiful leather holsters, but he's evidently gone TU as well.

Living takes its toll on all of us.


I can attest to BRL, I never received a paid in full holster from him. Responded for a while, promising he would get it out on multiple occasions. Then went completely radio silent. I just wrote it off and gave up.


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September 08, 2019, 12:02 PM
az4783054
quote:
Originally posted by dking271:
quote:
Originally posted by az4783054:
Sad to (maybe) lose another one man operation holster shop. BRL is another that built beautiful leather holsters, but he's evidently gone TU as well.

Living takes its toll on all of us.


I can attest to BRL, I never received a paid in full holster from him. Responded for a while, promising he would get it out on multiple occasions. Then went completely radio silent. I just wrote it off and gave up.


Your situation was what I was thinking of. There's no real excuse (short of death) for not completing a job that was paid for in full and waited for for so many months.
September 09, 2019, 08:44 AM
Expert308
I ordered a holster and mag carrier from Ozark back in January. That was the last I heard. Emails and phone calls go unanswered, including the last one where I asked him to refund my money if he's not going to deliver.
September 09, 2019, 01:29 PM
RogueJSK
Oy. Sad to hear that two members formerly in good standing have sunk to this.
September 09, 2019, 02:56 PM
parabellum
Do we know what happened to them? That is to say- either or both of them might have passed away, or be sick or any number of things. Of course it's far more likely that they simply became bored with making holsters but it's possible that there's a different explanation. Unlikely, but possible.

Dustin's a nice guy. I don't know BRL. I'll tell what I've seen over the years- hobbyists who have some talent and start a small business selling holsters or whatever, but have a full-time job doing something else, can then become bored or perhaps the work load gets too heavy, and they abandon the side job because this is not their primary source of income.

I do agree wholeheartedly that- barring incapacitation or death- accepting money for goods or services and then disappearing is entirely unacceptable. Once you see a vendor do something like that, they're not coming back, and that's very unfortunate.
September 09, 2019, 03:15 PM
az4783054
The websites of both OZARK and BRL are still active with only the latter stating no further orders are being taken.

FWIW, I always wanted a DEL FATTI 1911 holster but the wait was insanely long. His website says they're still working on 2015 orders! Yikes, most people may not even have the pistol they owned when they ordered a holster.
September 09, 2019, 03:21 PM
ensigmatic
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Originally posted by parabellum:
Once you see a vendor do something like that, they're not coming back, and that's very unfortunate.

Sadly, this does seem to be the case. I've seen dozens of examples on gun and knife forums over the years. While I won't say a maker coming back from something like this never happens, I don't recall ever seeing it.



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September 09, 2019, 03:42 PM
drabfour
BRL (Scott) last posted in July it’s been 2 years for Dustin.

From a post from BRL almost a year ago:

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Going to be a while if I do. My day job these days barely leaves me any time at all. I do miss doing more of it though and just erupted my website domain for another 3 years at a rediculous cost.

It’s nice to know there is still some demand Smile


I guess life got in the way but filled or paid orders should be taken care of anyways.
September 09, 2019, 09:00 PM
SigM4
Knowing Dustin personally I don’t want to speculate too much but I know he did break his arm back around the first of the year, that really put a dent in his ability to make holsters for a while. He was always playing catch up with orders, but it was a testament to his product. I’m guessing maybe it was just too much to recover from. Even with all the orders I know it was hard to make a living from holsters alone.

Whatever the case I hope he’s well and maybe I’ll hear back from him soon.



Success always occurs in private, and failure in full view.

Complacency sucks…