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Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
There is nothing like losing yourself in a game like Skyrim, spending hours just doing some side quests, or realizing you just spent 45 minutes rearranging a virtual house or something.

If I want to play co-op I will play something with my friends, but there is nothing like a deep single player epic game. Its sad to see them going away

Some of the early MMOs were all that and more. Completely open worlds that you could do as you wished, unguided and restricted only by your character dying. People everywhere to play with or ignore.

I miss those. WoW was one of the biggest to change things into a more directed system. Never really got into that one.

Tried ESO but it was just too much storytelling, too little action.

The more I read about Fallout 76, the more I'm out.

Latest interviews with the creator basically says you can be a dick and nuke stuff and be a general game wrecking asshole. You will pay a price, in that you will become wanted and have a bounty on your head and other stuff, but to the average douchbag that's almost encouragement.

I'm out, it will take just one asshole in your world to ruin everyone's good time.

Being a Fallout fan, I have been researching the game for a while now and finished watching the one hour developer video where they describe many of the elements of the game. There is enough that I heard and saw that I liked about the potential of the game to go ahead and pre-order it. While I am still concerned about some of the things brought up about griefing, it seems that they did take some substantially steps to balance the occurrence, ramifications, and avoidance enough to give the game the benefit of the doubt. I'm sure they may tweak it further once thousands of people are playing.

In either case, I'm going to remain positive about the open world elements and hopeful that the lack of NPCs won't be too detracting, and that other elements will compensate or replace that effectively. Who knows? Maybe with time and additional player feedback the NPC element might work its way back in?

B.E.T.A is out on the PC.

That’s one hell of a bug even for Bugthesda.

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Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
The more I read about Fallout 76, the more I'm out.

Latest interviews with the creator basically says you can be a dick and nuke stuff and be a general game wrecking asshole. You will pay a price, in that you will become wanted and have a bounty on your head and other stuff, but to the average douchbag that's almost encouragement.

I'm out, it will take just one asshole in your world to ruin everyone's good time.

My understanding is that the player v player areas are limited, and that even in them, a player can decline combat. If the initiator goes ahead anyway, it sounds like he gets very little rewards and does become wanted and subject to valuable bounties.

I will wait to see, but it sounds like they are trying to make it appealing to a wide variety of players.

I have preordered the last few Fallout games. I think I am going to wait on this one to get some feedback. This is not a game that I am that interested in playing multiplayer so the lack of NPCs really lowers my interest.

I'm on the fence as well. I played the crap out of the last one, did all the endings, etc.

I'm not into multiplayer fallout/skyrim/etc. I'll stick to the CODs with my son for multiplayer.

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Originally posted by jhe888:

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Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
The more I read about Fallout 76, the more I'm out.

Latest interviews with the creator basically says you can be a dick and nuke stuff and be a general game wrecking asshole. You will pay a price, in that you will become wanted and have a bounty on your head and other stuff, but to the average douchbag that's almost encouragement.

I'm out, it will take just one asshole in your world to ruin everyone's good time.

My understanding is that the player v player areas are limited, and that even in them, a player can decline combat. If the initiator goes ahead anyway, it sounds like he gets very little rewards and does become wanted and subject to valuable bounties.

I will wait to see, but it sounds like they are trying to make it appealing to a wide variety of players.

My concern is that becoming wanted and having a bounty on your head isn't a deterrent, it almost makes folks want to come screw with you more just for the fun of it.

Maybe I am wrong. I guess I am just an old man who wants these companies to leave single player games the hell alone.

If you want a Fallout MMO, go ahead and release one. Don't fuck up the formula that has made your series a success all these years.

They ruined Mass Effect with this nonsense. I pray they don't screw up the next Elder Scrolls. There is an online ES already, don't ruin the single player experience

I splurged and am in the "B.E.T.A" now.

It's Fallout 4 Online, with some changes that I can detail.

Graphically it looks great, there are new enemies and some new mechanics like the perk system is changed again.

The events are cool so far.

As far as I understand it, you can attack anyone anytime, after level 5. PvP is not limited to zones.

Right now, everyone is behaving themselves, because it's not very crowded, everyone is low level, and few people have groups.

I imagine it will turn douchey at some point, but so far it's a good mix of DayZ and Fallout 4.

the online times have all been while I was at work. I will try to play tomorrow.

I'm in there, sans the 76, it might list me as just Arc. If'n I'm on. I'm not sure how many regional zones or instances there are or will be.

server down.

So, you can find people you know through the "social" menu. There are multiple servers and it randomly dumps you in one. To play together you need to use the social tab.

Loot regenerates, stash boxes are player independent. Quest items are player independent.

I wonder if my stuff is protected if someone finds my campground. Where did you build yours? I think I may wander over towards the GreenBriar and build somewhere over there.

Your stash can only be accessed by you. In fact, if you open any stash anywhere, including in someone elses base, it will be your stash.

They can damage your camp, but they can't actually take anything.

Also, PvP is anytime anywhere, after level 5. But, everyone can see other players on the map, and people you kill can put a bounty on you.

With teams, PvP is going to be very hard on lone dirtbags.

I was killed once tonight, at random, by another player for no reason. So, I found him and returned the favor.

Frankly, I recommend hanging on to one grenade. Just for that one guy who needs to die. It's more than sufficient for anyone "low level," and not in power armor.

I got killed while I was overburdened.

What you drop, is all of your scrap items. Not your armor or weapons.

I highly recommend finding a team and playing with them.

Yes, I only made it to level five before the servers shut down. There were only a few dozen people on my server. So I think they have a bunch of worlds to keep them from getting crowded. I searched for you but didnt get any hits. I did a few quests, and even worked with a group doing an 'event' and got some extra loot. I haven't found anything of worth yet.

I died a few times by just walking into a group of bots etc. But then did the 'auto stimpack' perk and haven't died since. No one has attacked me.

I read a review about this being the loneliest multiplayer game of all time. I tend to agree, I do a lot more sneaking and hiding from others. And the whole "only vault dwellers" are alive is kinda creepy.
I haven't figured out how to 'scrap' stuff yet. I can scrap junk just fine, but I cant seem to scrap trees and other stuff around my campground.

I am at work for the next few beta tests so Maybe this weekend.

Can Xbox players (or other console gamers) play on the same maps as PC gamers? I've got a laptop but some of my coworkers have XBoxes. I'd hate to have to get a console to play with them.

In every other multiplayer game I've played so far, there are no cross-platform games where multiple platforms are in the same game instance. That doesn't mean this one doesn't. It just means it is unlikely.

I'm on PC, and so is everyone I know who is in game with me.