I agree and have been far less impressed with this series. So far away from what Mr. Clancy presented in terms of character(s) and political background.
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July 15, 2023, 12:21 PM
6guns
I finished it last night. I was entertained, but it was pretty corny at times.
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July 15, 2023, 09:52 PM
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Jack Ryan in the books was much more than an injured marine turned analyst. Hell, he became the President.
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July 16, 2023, 08:20 AM
Blackmore
By originally, I meant in THFRO
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July 16, 2023, 08:46 AM
CD228
quote:
Originally posted by jljones: Jack Ryan in the books was much more than an injured marine turned analyst. Hell, he became the President.
That is true, but he wasn't a door kicker. He had Ding and Clark for that. When he was doing action in the earlier novels Hunt For Red October, Clear and Present Danger, and Patriot Games he was very much out of his element or got in the situation accidentally (Patriot Games) or because of his morals (Clear and Present Danger). Remember, he learned/relearned pistol shooting in Patriot Games.
July 16, 2023, 10:04 AM
ggile
As pointed out in some earlier posts, these series would be more fitting as Jack Ryan Jr., series rather than Jack Ryan Sr.
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July 17, 2023, 11:02 AM
Loswsmith
So I've watched all for seasons and while I know there are MANY significant plot points so big it would allow a retrofitted Typhoon class submarine made even bigger with six more missile tubes and a malfunctioning catapiller drive to steam through at 30+ knots, it was entertaining and better than a lot of other television out there, IMO.
I could, and have to others, bitched all day about it's plot issues, but at the end of the day I was asked, as Maximus once asked in Gladiator , are you entertained? And I was.
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July 17, 2023, 05:02 PM
redstone
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Originally posted by ggile: As pointed out in some earlier posts, these series would be more fitting as Jack Ryan Jr., series rather than Jack Ryan Sr.
I would agree. The character is a lot like .jr in the books. But Clancys Widow can shape and reform him at will, and she is doing it with a gusto. I enjoyed the show, and liked the characters. But Greer, Clark, Chavez et al live in my head as the original characters in the books.
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July 20, 2023, 08:19 AM
Patriot
I hear that they are in development to break off Chavez as a spinoff.
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July 21, 2023, 12:31 PM
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The Venezuelan plot and the final season were pointless and stupid silly IMO.
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July 21, 2023, 06:30 PM
cas
"That's the top bad guy in the end."
That's what I said when they made their first appearance on screen. Hollywood writers are so cliche, so predictable. Bleh.
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July 24, 2023, 03:25 PM
jhe888
quote:
Originally posted by Blackmore:
Because lots of gun fighting, fist fighting, knife fighting, and jumping out of airplanes sells.
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July 24, 2023, 03:37 PM
P250UA5
quote:
Originally posted by Patriot: I hear that they are in development to break off Chavez as a spinoff.
Rainbow Six, from what I've heard. I still need to finish S3 of JR.
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July 24, 2023, 06:01 PM
BMR
Finished Season 4 to the end, but I struggled to get through it. Each season got progressively worse, IMO.
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July 24, 2023, 06:48 PM
AUTiger89
Oh no. They're going to change the meaning of Rainbow, aren't they?
quote:
Originally posted by P250UA5:
quote:
Originally posted by Patriot: I hear that they are in development to break off Chavez as a spinoff.
Rainbow Six, from what I've heard. I still need to finish S3 of JR.
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July 24, 2023, 07:01 PM
P250UA5
quote:
Originally posted by AUTiger89: Oh no. They're going to change the meaning of Rainbow, aren't they?
quote:
Originally posted by P250UA5:
quote:
Originally posted by Patriot: I hear that they are in development to break off Chavez as a spinoff.
Rainbow Six, from what I've heard. I still need to finish S3 of JR.
Hope not, I enjoyed the book. Hope they can stick to it.
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July 25, 2023, 12:29 AM
Legal Beagle
If you can keep the books and the TV series separate in your head, I found all five seasons to be well done and enjoyable. Season 5 had some The Sandbaggers vibes in it, which I wish more shows did. (And if you like your Jack Ryan without the action hero bits and have not seen The Sandbaggers, you might enjoy that show quite a bit. Would love a remake.)
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