I watched NTTD again on a flight the other day and liked it better than the first time. Biggest gripe is still underuse of Ana de Armas and the relatively boring (low action) 3rd act.

I caught it on Prime. It was not bad. The black chick who portrayed the new 007 was poorly cast and wasnt good at all. Ana de Armas was ++++! The references to earlier Bond films were fun. The death of Leiter was a bummer, since I had had been hoping for a bigger role for Jeffery Wright.

Thought is was terrible. Casting and writing were poor also. I am glad I did not pay for it ( other that Amazon Prime).

Watched it for the first time on Prime over the weekend.

Was not impressed! You could leave the black 007 out of it and no one would notice. Daniel Craig as Bond, looked old and tired and we can all hope he did get blown to bits at the end.

Watched also on Prime too.
It wasn't like any of the Connery classic greats but just OK, IMO.
Certainly an lot worse to choose from now days.

I don't know why they had to kill off Bond. He's lasted for 50 years; not sure why he couldn't last another 50.

I like Ana in other roles she's played. She was absolutely captivatingly stunning here. Amazingly beautiful.

I hate that James Bond has been killed off. I have no impressions of the new 007; she got almost zero screen time and I have to think hard to remember any of her scenes. I watch the series for James Bond. I don't watch it for 007 - fill in the person. If they want a 00x with a female black person as an agent, fine. Make another character. Make a different franchise. But leave James Bond alone as 007 and continue that franchise. Guys want to be James Bond. They don't want to be some black female super agent - I don't identify as that. It's like watching Lara Croft - cool character but I'm watching in 3rd person. Bond - I like to watch as thought 1st person - that's part of the pull.

I finally caught this one on Prime and enjoyed it - I’d already read the spoilers and knew how it would end.

Overall I’ve enjoyed the DC era (after thinking in the beginning of it that I wouldn’t).

With the end-credit mention that “James Bond Will Return,” I wonder if perhaps some retro / throwback / prequel type films might be in the works? Showing us some of JB’s “other” exploits from the ‘60s, etc., given the timeless nature of the character?

I loved the Daniel Craig era. After Quantum the studios were having financial issues, so we lost a movie or two while they sorted themselves out. I get that they killed off Craig's Bond. Ian Flemming tried 2-3 times in the novels so he could stop writing Bond novels. And he kept having to bring him back. But is served as a nice book end since we saw Craig earn his '00' status in CR.

Eon/ Barbara Broccoli announced it will be at least 2 years before production starts on the next Bond movie. They are still trying to decide how to go forward. I do like the idea of filming the Bond novels as written/set in the early Cold War. Some novels are going to be slow and not as action oriented as we are used to, but who knows.

Also with Amazon acquiring Eon, there has been talk of a spin off series for Prime. Eon wants James to remain big screen only. I would love to see Ana's character have a series. She had more screen presence than the new 007 did.

** Resurrected Old Thread **

** Spoilers Ahead **

The movie and this thread haven't been on my radar since the time of this thread. I was surprised to see I even participated. Thankfully, I didn't have any memory of any of the cautions at the beginning of this thread. None of them came to fruition. Now that several Bond films have been added to Netflix, I watched this one and I loved it!

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Originally posted by konata88:
I don't know why they had to kill off Bond. He's lasted for 50 years; not sure why he couldn't last another 50.

No one presumed that Bond was immortal. There was just no movie that depicted his dying. This movie simply concluded the Daniel Craig James Bond arc. Bond dying here doesn’t preclude future movies from starting fresh arcs of their own.

When this came out DEI was full on in the world, and it still is in many places including entertainment.

The concern is you kill off James Bond but the 007 moniker continues, when you see that they had already assigned 007 to a black woman agent.

Bond has survived several reboots since Dr No in 1962, lets hope that resurrection is a real thing

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Originally posted by Keystoner:
No one presumed that Bond was immortal. There was just no movie that depicted his dying. This movie simply concluded the Daniel Craig James Bond arc. Bond dying here doesn’t preclude future movies from starting fresh arcs of their own.

Wasn't it insinuated somewhere that "James Bond" is a legend created as a alternate identity for the MI6 agent, with a whole backstory as a Commander of the Royal Navy? Which explains why there were four other "James Bonds" before Craig? Same for why there were multiple "M's" and "Q's", which also explains why Judi Dench's "M" overlaps Pierce Brosnan's "Bond" and Daniel Craig's "Bond"? Felix Leiter too, but that was debatable. So in a way, "James Bond" is immortal because he was not "real" in its universe.

Then Skyfall gave him a childhood home, so James Bond was a real person. That was a head-scratcher for me. There will be a new "007", but it won't be James Bond now that they killed him off.

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Originally posted by Rawny:
There will be a new "007", but it won't be James Bond now that they killed him off.

You completely missed the point. Bond dying here concludes this arc (Craig's specific James Bond story). Previous films never depicted it because they weren't building toward concluding a single, continuous arc--they kept recasting and continuing without real closure. No Time to Die gave Daniel Craig's James Bond a complete, tidy arc with a hero ending. His death closes this specific story. It doesn't kill off James Bond the character or the name. The franchise is already going forward with new arcs (Bond 26 is in development under Amazon MGM right now). The next 007 will still be James Bond with a fresh start, as always.

This is why we can not possibly do away with the R-word.....

I would like to see them do a one off with Pierce Brosnan as a much older 007. Dial back the Daniel Craig super fights. Spend more $$ on a good script instead of wild stunts and CGI.

By then maybe they will have decided who they want to be the next 007.


I originally wanted to see Henry Cavill as the next Bond but apparently they don’t want anything to do with him.



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As mentioned above. I would like to see a retro series of movies. We live in a super high tech world ourselves and watching a super high tech Bond is kinda like. ….look an autonomous drone is chasing him….yawn. Going retro lets you go back to both spycraft and fun gadgets and villains IMO.

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Originally posted by cslinger:
As mentioned above. I would like to see a retro series of movies. We live in a super high tech world ourselves and watching a super high tech Bond is kinda like. ….look an autonomous drone is chasing him….yawn. Going retro lets you go back to both spycraft and fun gadgets and villains IMO.

someone would actually have to write a good script...

^^^ And I'd definitely be up for that movie.